I would like to have a thought provoking and civil conversation about ISIS.....what you think will stop them, what will make it worse. Please make this a civil and appropriate discussion. i am looking for a good conversation not a flame war.
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the psychology of people giving their lives to causes is always with metaphysical considerations in tow, even if they're deeply subconscious
they really really don't dude. the average isis member sees only their imminent demise. i mean how couldn't they dealing with the u.s. as they are? and with the u.s.'s recent history when it comes to dealing with such terrorist groups?
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Point: Islam and the Arab world are being ****ed up the *** on a daily basis by these people. They're not benefiting Islam or the Arab world, even. They're only really benefiting a political group.
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As a Muslim who lives harmonically around Muslims whose beliefs differ slightly to mine, people who support ISIS are a very rare minority and they're like the rednecks of America.
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But they do have something to win. A civil war in Syria. They're also giving Islam a terrible name. I don't see these people as Islam-sided at all. I mean, they're clearly doing a good job at both?
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nah. it's not just 'nothing to lose' because they have nothing to win either, not as far as sensible earthly selfishness goes. it's religious dude.
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same. I usually refrain from going into these, but I have nothing else to do with my day frankly.
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Exactly. "Nothing to lose" politics is what I'm talking about. ISIS is a diversion that only exists because a certain political party wants it to. Just IMO.
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i hate this argument lol
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when a person will die for their cause it's religion. might as well be. that or 'nothing to lose' politics
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Man I don't know. I remain very young and, to some, "naive", but it's just my outlook on everything, especially given the fact that I am Syrian. You don't have to give my opinion any weight if you don't want to.
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the world is given unto islamic extremists by allah through war. hardly politics, but fair enough.
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all right w.e., it's partly political lol
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Right. But does that necessitate that they're not abusing religion to do extreme acts that benefit a certain political group?
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i'm not making that mistake, peta. i just skip calling it politics in their politics being hugely suicidal
You're both making a mistake by acting like political machinations have to be strictly rational rather than influenced by religious and/or irrational motives.
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Religion is just what the coat it all with.
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eradication of islam is a ridiculous idea. pure edginess probably propping up greater psychological illness (or whatever). about the only sensible/moral approach i can figure to dealing with isis is a very forgiving containment
Disagree. ISIS exists for political benefit, not religious at all. Being Syrian, I've realized that ISIS (supposedly fighting Assad forces) has taken the light off of their decades of brutality and onto themselves and Islam, even. There is no correct side in Syria right now because the FSA has done **** all and ISIS are absolutely horrendous and immoral, and the Assad family has been abusing their rule for decades on end. Now, look at these results and tell me: what is their ultimate goal?
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religion is in fact their ultimate goal. they're just molding islam to suit their circumstances, to account for their existence. really, it is war that has built isis out of islam, but that doesn't mean it's not islam. isis is suicidal, not political.
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Religion isn't their ultimate goal, so I definitely agree with you there. They take advantage of Islamic tenets for political reasons. If Islam never existed, they'd definitely resort to a different religion. At least, that's the way I've interpreted it.
