Quite. But remodding anybody posting in this thread is not worth it.
A couple of the newest mods can stay, like Tashie. And Jackhammer can be remodded after his exams. The only thing experience is really required for is cheater-catching, and Germatron applied to be a mod and could cover that without having been a mod for such a long time than the current problems don't affect him at all.
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i can't decide what's funnier; that the most decorated list is full of people from the meta abuse wild west of em 1.0, or that if you removed the players that won during that time period you'd be left with atikur and matt12
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but if the mod team did restart we would need an admin who is ready to commit to it and not forced upon or else we'd be at the same exact spot when they step down in 3 months.
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make a greatest hits mod team, including myself, retti, aesop, and other classic mods.
3-4 vets is way too much. All you need is two good admins and the leftover mods.
However the thing is, although I like the idea in principle, I don't think it would end up where it should at all. It's very easy for it to backfire
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i think what sucks about this overall is that none of this will be implemented due to lucid being a bit stubborn in his ways
there also needs to be a coder or someone who can handle ordeals such as this when lucid isn't around, because admins are really only built as of right now to babysit the mods
the problems will not be solved until the mod team is rebuilt from the ground up, because right now jasper is building on top of a team that vancy left with way too many problems.
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https://epicmafia.com/score/alltime woah who is that guy at the top of the most decorated players list? You're telling me he was an admin? Did he mod cheaters?
i read this in jericho's voice and it got three times funnier
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She didn't filter me at all. There was essentially zero difference between Sachy's adminship and my adminship because she was a great moderator but she didn't lead. I did.
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I played mafia with gennehfar and I actually like her a lot and I thought she was really good, and think she should definitely stay
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the only mod who i've noticed doing flagrantly awful things since i've come back is hima, but to be fair i'm not actually checking up on what they do at all
Restart is good, it's kinda like what I did only I restarted with experienced mods and slowly added newer people once things were in motion (almost all 5 of the people I added the first day I became admin quit within 2 months anyway). It's easier to develop good habits as a mod if you're around experienced people who exhibit those habits as opposed to falling into bad patterns on your own.
Also, reports have to get done and having experienced people to help with feedback and check is critical in the startup.
90% of what Sachy did as admin was me on her account, Steven, and given how inactive you were at that time and how wrong you seem to be remembering it, I'd say your opinion is pretty poor.
You think I don't know that?
The fact is, people loved sachy even if you were the mastermind behind most of the things, because she acted as a filter for you
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yeah im not trying to knock nikos, hes a good guy and its a shame neither times he became admin worked out.
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It's an affront to half of them, but yes. The system is flawed and needs to be rebuilt, fully.
Mod experience is massively overvalued and most remoddings have been poor decisions in the long run.
i think demodding most of the current mods and replacing them with new ones is a good idea, but the site would be complete garbage for the duration of time it would take to replace the mods, so it isn't practical.
No one ever blamed the admin for anything with sachy, as opposed to every other admin. Solaster was the only one that had better reviews so to speak
Nikki PE both inactive Laexio forum stuff Riot self explanatory Bronto too nice and the whole thing with setups Vancy lack of de moderating Jasprar now
You forgot Arcbell. lol
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and that's not even an affront to the current mod team, it's just that the system needs a restart and they just so happen to be the ones around when it needs to happen
point taken here also that bronto had nikos as co-admin to boost his popularity, and also how he handled the arcbell incident
Nikos told me straight up that he was expecting me to lead from the get-go, when I had expected going into it that I would be playing second fiddle.
The timing worked out really poor for the guy, just with how he ended up getting a boatload more work right when he became admin after asking to mod for two months prior.
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The current mod team is an issue, but remodding more vets with their own motives is not a solution at all. It needs to be rebuilt from scratch, with brand new mods, and a reset to 2011. Jasper should essentially get rid of 90% of his mod team, and replace them with brand new mods. There'd be teething issues, but the current issues are so ingrained and that's been caused by mods past and present.
agreed, with the addendum that you could absolutely convince 3 or 4 of those vets to moderate for a month while everyone gets their feet wet, to ease the transition period
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90% of what Sachy did as admin was me on her account, Steven, and given how inactive you were at that time and how wrong you seem to be remembering it, I'd say your opinion is pretty poor.
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pe was probably my favorite admin, i liked how he handled drama.
you mean that he didn't because PE had already built up a community respect? me too