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Dearest Kino

deletedabout 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

kino
about 10 years

Sims says

i think allowing eris to update eriscache is way different than letting him stay on your account and do reports though, which afaik is what happened


it's not
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years
as far as the malaise that seems to have allegedly plagued moderation since the "better days", remember too that lucid used to be around a lot more too.

It's a lot easier to care about the site if the owner cared more. lucid isn't as invested in this site as he used to be, it's a different working environment.
deletedabout 10 years

thebrontosaurus says

Well I couldn't have done anything about it if no one told me. I also wasn't going to breathe down the necks of people. I told mods what they're supposed to do and not to share accounts. It's not my fault that eriscache is a good program that people wanted to use to help mod more efficiently.


It's your fault for not spotting sooner, and not watching your staff; yes. There's a difference between being a competent admin who watches things, and breathing down someone's neck. You can watch your team without being a dictator very easily.
deletedabout 10 years
It wouldn't have been a public execution if it hadn't come to this point. It could have been a private one.

And given how so many mods (as retti said) don't take it seriously, they need something to wake them up.
Sims
about 10 years
i think the only real way to discipline a mod is to demod them or take away their keys. talking to them won't do much, because the only real thing an admin can do to a mod is demod them
kino
about 10 years
yeah i realised that it was a mistake when i changed my pw etc a couple of weeks(?i dont really remember the time) before the change from kino to kotori.
Arcbell
about 10 years

Lashka says


Arcbell says


Lashka says

I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.


what would you want from this situation?


An example to be made of Kino.


not gonna happen without really bad repercussions.
Goodbar
about 10 years

Sims says

even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account


heh...
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Lashka says


Arcbell says


Lashka says

I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.


what would you want from this situation?


An example to be made of Kino.


this is the only part I don't like. I think discipline can be handled without people having to publicly execute, but I flow to my own beat of the drum around here, I guess.
deletedabout 10 years

Arcbell says


Lashka says

I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.


what would you want from this situation?


he wants his money. and he wants it now.
Miki
about 10 years

Sims says

realistically though, there should be some sort of repercussion for mods that account share. even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account, he isn't a mod, and account sharing makes it more likely for mod info to leak


he is not trustworthy to be a mod or have access to a mod account. thats been proven several times over
Satan
about 10 years

Sims says

realistically though, there should be some sort of repercussion for mods that account share. even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account, he isn't a mod, and account sharing makes it more likely for mod info to leak


was a trustworthy guy apparently
deletedabout 10 years

Arcbell says


Lashka says

I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.


what would you want from this situation?


An example to be made of Kino.
Sims
about 10 years
i think allowing eris to update eriscache is way different than letting him stay on your account and do reports though, which afaik is what happened
Arcbell
about 10 years

Lashka says

I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.


what would you want from this situation?
Sims
about 10 years
realistically though, there should be some sort of repercussion for mods that account share. even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account, he isn't a mod, and account sharing makes it more likely for mod info to leak
deletedabout 10 years
actually if im being a bit critical about current mods is that a lot of them take it as a joke and don't take their powers as seriously which can be both annoying and make the team look bad

for my case i was just looking to go out with a bang.
deletedabout 10 years

Sims says

it was also around the time i mishammered moxie into a fourth


she also blamed me for getting a refund on a game that she won beacuse of a blatant throw
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Harunan says


thebrontosaurus says


Retti says

modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed


i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?


Were you admin at the time? If so, then yes; because permitting users who were not given those powers should not, at all, have access to them.


Well I couldn't have done anything about it if no one told me. I also wasn't going to breathe down the necks of people. I told mods what they're supposed to do and not to share accounts. It's not my fault that eriscache is a good program that people wanted to use to help mod more efficiently.
Sims
about 10 years
it was also around the time i mishammered moxie into a fourth
deletedabout 10 years
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
Satan
about 10 years

Sims says

the one time i account shared with someone that wasn't a mod i stepped down because of it even though the admin at the time didn't make that big of a deal out of it. i guess i'm just a moral dude.


ur the best
deletedabout 10 years
It doesn't take a lot to look lek the best mod compartevly these days
deletedabout 10 years

thebrontosaurus says


Retti says

modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed


i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?


Were you admin at the time? If so, then yes; because permitting users who were not given those powers should not, at all, have access to them.
deletedabout 10 years

thebrontosaurus says


Retti says

modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed


i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?


depends on the context in which this happened