Dearest Kino

deleteddeletedover 11 years ago

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

kinoover 11 years ago
Sims
i think allowing eris to update eriscache is way different than letting him stay on your account and do reports though, which afaik is what happened
it's not
thebrontosaurusover 11 years ago
as far as the malaise that seems to have allegedly plagued moderation since the "better days", remember too that lucid used to be around a lot more too.

It's a lot easier to care about the site if the owner cared more. lucid isn't as invested in this site as he used to be, it's a different working environment.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
thebrontosaurus
Well I couldn't have done anything about it if no one told me. I also wasn't going to breathe down the necks of people. I told mods what they're supposed to do and not to share accounts. It's not my fault that eriscache is a good program that people wanted to use to help mod more efficiently.
It's your fault for not spotting sooner, and not watching your staff; yes. There's a difference between being a competent admin who watches things, and breathing down someone's neck. You can watch your team without being a dictator very easily.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
It wouldn't have been a public execution if it hadn't come to this point. It could have been a private one.

And given how so many mods (as retti said) don't take it seriously, they need something to wake them up.
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Simsover 11 years ago
i think the only real way to discipline a mod is to demod them or take away their keys. talking to them won't do much, because the only real thing an admin can do to a mod is demod them
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kinoover 11 years ago
yeah i realised that it was a mistake when i changed my pw etc a couple of weeks(?i dont really remember the time) before the change from kino to kotori.
Arcbellover 11 years ago
Lashka
Arcbell
Lashka
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
what would you want from this situation?
An example to be made of Kino.
not gonna happen without really bad repercussions.
Goodbarover 11 years ago
Sims
even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account
heh...
thebrontosaurusover 11 years ago
Lashka
Arcbell
Lashka
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
what would you want from this situation?
An example to be made of Kino.
this is the only part I don't like. I think discipline can be handled without people having to publicly execute, but I flow to my own beat of the drum around here, I guess.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Arcbell
Lashka
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
what would you want from this situation?
he wants his money. and he wants it now.
Mikiover 11 years ago
Sims
realistically though, there should be some sort of repercussion for mods that account share. even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account, he isn't a mod, and account sharing makes it more likely for mod info to leak
he is not trustworthy to be a mod or have access to a mod account. thats been proven several times over
Satanover 11 years ago
Sims
realistically though, there should be some sort of repercussion for mods that account share. even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account, he isn't a mod, and account sharing makes it more likely for mod info to leak
was a trustworthy guy apparently
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Arcbell
Lashka
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
what would you want from this situation?
An example to be made of Kino.
Simsover 11 years ago
i think allowing eris to update eriscache is way different than letting him stay on your account and do reports though, which afaik is what happened
Arcbellover 11 years ago
Lashka
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious of things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
what would you want from this situation?
Simsover 11 years ago
realistically though, there should be some sort of repercussion for mods that account share. even though eris is a trustworthy enough guy to not do anything bad on a mod's account, he isn't a mod, and account sharing makes it more likely for mod info to leak
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
actually if im being a bit critical about current mods is that a lot of them take it as a joke and don't take their powers as seriously which can be both annoying and make the team look bad

for my case i was just looking to go out with a bang.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
Sims
it was also around the time i mishammered moxie into a fourth
she also blamed me for getting a refund on a game that she won beacuse of a blatant throw
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thebrontosaurusover 11 years ago
Harunan
thebrontosaurus
Retti
modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed
i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?
Were you admin at the time? If so, then yes; because permitting users who were not given those powers should not, at all, have access to them.
Well I couldn't have done anything about it if no one told me. I also wasn't going to breathe down the necks of people. I told mods what they're supposed to do and not to share accounts. It's not my fault that eriscache is a good program that people wanted to use to help mod more efficiently.
Simsover 11 years ago
it was also around the time i mishammered moxie into a fourth
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deleteddeletedover 11 years agoedited
I get annoyed about it whoever it is. It's one of a number of serious things that have gone seriously down the drain with mods since the Better Days.
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Satanover 11 years ago
Sims
the one time i account shared with someone that wasn't a mod i stepped down because of it even though the admin at the time didn't make that big of a deal out of it. i guess i'm just a moral dude.
ur the best
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deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
It doesn't take a lot to look lek the best mod compartevly these days
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
thebrontosaurus
Retti
modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed
i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?
Were you admin at the time? If so, then yes; because permitting users who were not given those powers should not, at all, have access to them.
deleteddeletedover 11 years ago
thebrontosaurus
Retti
modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed
i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?
depends on the context in which this happened