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Dearest Kino

deletedabout 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Lashka says


thebrontosaurus says


Lashka says

Mods sharing accounts happening a lot doesn't justify it, though. It never used to be tolerated, but a succession of weak admins allowed it to spiral out of control.


I really don't appreciate you taking shots at me because you're upset right now.


Then don't defend something that's patently a bad thing. The actual reason I'm taking shots at you is also utterly separate to this thread, but I'm not going to get into that ;).


I'm not defending it, I know it's dumb. I just think it's the kind of thing that people selectively get annoyed about depending on who it is, rather than an overall yay or nay.
deletedabout 10 years

Cantankerous says


Apostasy says

Slow is the only mod Irespect and I don't even respect him that much


didn't you like type a paragraph about how much you liked me as a mod one time


Comparatively.
deletedabout 10 years

Satan says

i like you as a mod, slow


thanks, friend
Sims
about 10 years
the one time i account shared with someone that wasn't a mod i stepped down because of it even though the admin at the time didn't make that big of a deal out of it. i guess i'm just a moral dude.
Satan
about 10 years
i like you as a mod, slow
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Retti says

modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed


i mean i've had fellow mods and past mods use my account at times. Should I have been removed for doing that?
deletedabout 10 years

thebrontosaurus says


Lashka says

Mods sharing accounts happening a lot doesn't justify it, though. It never used to be tolerated, but a succession of weak admins allowed it to spiral out of control.


I really don't appreciate you taking shots at me because you're upset right now.


Then don't defend something that's patently a bad thing. The actual reason I'm taking shots at you is also utterly separate to this thread, but I'm not going to get into that ;).
deletedabout 10 years

Apostasy says

Slow is the only mod Irespect and I don't even respect him that much


didn't you like type a paragraph about how much you liked me as a mod one time
deletedabout 10 years
modding shouldn't be some sort of special key that you can share with your friends if they behave

it was severely looked down upon before and im not sure why it changed
kino
about 10 years
like do you guys want a timeline? i'm sure to miss some things

i only shared with him once and he did barely any reports for me lol i asked him for advice a lot when i was unsure but i did pretttttty much all the work myself, he probably did about 50 total
BlackBattler
about 10 years
nvm
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Lashka says

Mods sharing accounts happening a lot doesn't justify it, though. It never used to be tolerated, but a succession of weak admins allowed it to spiral out of control.


I really don't appreciate you taking shots at me because you're upset right now.
BlackBattler
about 10 years
hu just self deleted
Satan
about 10 years

thebrontosaurus says


Arcbell says


thebrontosaurus says

sorry arc the timing was too perfect.

also i wouldn't be surprised if epicmafia player garyoak decided to use the art of deception to trick both riot and kino so riot would do the work for him unbeknownst to himself, even.


heh i chuckled. look account sharing with eris was her only real crime here. when eris wasn't a banned user yes it's bad and yes she should apologize but i don't want someone as nice as kino to be the only one held to that standard


Yeah, mods sharing accounts happens a lot. No one seems to care if the user is respected, however.


if the person isn't someone who would be considered by the team to ever become mod, then i'm sure lots of people would take issue to that, whereas if someone who has proven themselves as trustworthy and they have no ill intentions, then sure let them account share
deletedabout 10 years
Mods sharing accounts happening a lot doesn't justify it, though. It never used to be tolerated, but a succession of weak admins allowed it to spiral out of control.
Arcbell
about 10 years

thebrontosaurus says


Arcbell says


thebrontosaurus says

sorry arc the timing was too perfect.

also i wouldn't be surprised if epicmafia player garyoak decided to use the art of deception to trick both riot and kino so riot would do the work for him unbeknownst to himself, even.


heh i chuckled. look account sharing with eris was her only real crime here. when eris wasn't a banned user yes it's bad and yes she should apologize but i don't want someone as nice as kino to be the only one held to that standard


Yeah, mods sharing accounts happens a lot. No one seems to care if the user is respected, however.

Arcbell
about 10 years

kino says

i havent talked to him for like a month either lol

there's too many things that are false here for me to respond to


take your time, and admit all mistakes it'll be forgiven
deletedabout 10 years
Well, given Josh would have no motive to do that, I am more of the opinion that somebody is lying. And it ain't me.
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Arcbell says


thebrontosaurus says

sorry arc the timing was too perfect.

also i wouldn't be surprised if epicmafia player garyoak decided to use the art of deception to trick both riot and kino so riot would do the work for him unbeknownst to himself, even.


heh i chuckled. look account sharing with eris was her only real crime here. when eris wasn't a banned user yes it's bad and yes she should apologize but i don't want someone as nice as kino to be the only one held to that standard


Yeah, mods sharing accounts happens a lot. No one seems to care if the user is respected, however.
deletedabout 10 years
Slow is the only mod Irespect and I don't even respect him that much
kino
about 10 years
i havent talked to him for like a month either lol

there's too many things that are false here for me to respond to
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Lashka says

Josh hasn't spoken to me in over a month, Dan. So that'd be a pretty neat trick.


Who said he had to talk to you to get you to do this?

I'm just speculating, of course. But given that both sides seem to disagree, it leads me to believe that you were both feed incorrect info, somehow or another.
Arcbell
about 10 years

thebrontosaurus says

sorry arc the timing was too perfect.

also i wouldn't be surprised if epicmafia player garyoak decided to use the art of deception to trick both riot and kino so riot would do the work for him unbeknownst to himself, even.


heh i chuckled. look account sharing with eris was her only real crime here. when eris wasn't a banned user yes it's bad and yes she should apologize but i don't want someone as nice as kino to be the only one held to that standard
Satan
about 10 years

Apostasy says

Mods who do bad things should no longer be mods jsut imo


i agree

but change it to:

mods who do bad things as mods should no longer be mods jsut imo
TheShane
about 10 years

Apostasy says

Mods who do bad things should no longer be mods jsut imo


Too bad some still stay or get remodded