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Dearest Kino

deletedover 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

over 10 years

Arcbell says


Miki says

idk why youre defending her choices when the argument is about how fit she is to remain a mod, not why she did the wrong things...


she did things that are wrong, but no one is perfect everyone makes mistakes. if you wanna judge one person for an imperfection then we have to judge everyone for it.


do you think she should remain a mod? y/n?
deletedover 10 years
The community point is that repeated catastrophic failures of judgement show she is unsuitable to be a mod.
deletedover 10 years
I unironcally think you should have to have a trophy to be allow to2 mod competitive games
over 10 years

Miki says

idk why youre defending her choices when the argument is about how fit she is to remain a mod, not why she did the wrong things...


she did things that are wrong, but no one is perfect everyone makes mistakes. if you wanna judge one person for an imperfection then we have to judge everyone for it.
over 10 years
Regardless of her reasons for doing the things she did, she still account shared and allowed a banned user to bypass.
over 10 years

Miki says


Arcbell says


Satan says

if she can't handle banning someone who's evading regardless of her connection to them, then she isn't really fit to be a mod (seeing as that is a bias, of sorts, yeah?)


well under normal circumstances im sure she'd be able to handle it. the difficulty is she shared with eris, meaning if she pissed eris off he could out that she shared.


then why should she remain a mod fypov ~_~
(not that i have any issue w/ her, idc)


because i don't like roasting 1 person for something someone else gets away with.
deletedover 10 years
Remove Vancy as admin - remodding kino after kino account shared as a mod. Also being bias (unbans his friends ie. weareking)

Also a lot of people figured Oliver was Kino since the person kept focusing on sandbox.

Ban Kino - Account shared twice with a banned user
over 10 years
idk why youre defending her choices when the argument is about how fit she is to remain a mod, not why she did the wrong things...
deletedover 10 years

Satan says

just for laughs




Yeah that was quote I was referring to and laughed at the hypocrisy at the time.
over 10 years

Satan says

just for laughs




it's actually partly true. but i won't go into details
over 10 years

Arcbell says


Satan says

if she can't handle banning someone who's evading regardless of her connection to them, then she isn't really fit to be a mod (seeing as that is a bias, of sorts, yeah?)


well under normal circumstances im sure she'd be able to handle it. the difficulty is she shared with eris, meaning if she pissed eris off he could out that she shared.


then why should she remain a mod fypov ~_~
(not that i have any issue w/ her, idc)
over 10 years
just for laughs

deletedover 10 years
Is gary banned again>
over 10 years

TheShane says


Germatron says

posting to say Im on Lashka's side here.

I havent read more than a page of the thread though. That's just my impression


is there really anyone supporting the other side?


some conflicts have more than 2 sides, young shane
over 10 years

Lashka says

And actually, ErisCache would have a lot of his accounts on there just from before he was banned, Arc.


so would the other things the mods were using, so i imagine he used new accounts
over 10 years

Germatron says

posting to say Im on Lashka's side here.

I havent read more than a page of the thread though. That's just my impression


is there really anyone supporting the other side?
deletedover 10 years

Apostasy says

kill mods one by one

over 10 years

Satan says

if she can't handle banning someone who's evading regardless of her connection to them, then she isn't really fit to be a mod (seeing as that is a bias, of sorts, yeah?)


well under normal circumstances im sure she'd be able to handle it. the difficulty is she shared with eris, meaning if she pissed eris off he could out that she shared.
deletedover 10 years
And actually, ErisCache would have a lot of his accounts on there just from before he was banned, Arc.
deletedover 10 years
Awesome tear her into tiny little diffident pieces kill mods one by one
over 10 years
if she can't handle banning someone who's evading regardless of her connection to them, then she isn't really fit to be a mod (seeing as that is a bias, of sorts, yeah?)
deletedover 10 years

Satan says


Arcbell says


Satan says


thebrontosaurus says

honestly i think that this isn't a big deal and it can be resolved pretty quickly and painlessly.

I think kino needs to speak here because her side of the story will help complete the picture of what actually happened and lead to this.


Dan, either way, it can't be ignored that she shared her account with a banned user. Even if there was some explanation for that, she still did it.


she probably shared before he was banned. remember he was banned way way after vancy took office, and the share happened before that


Well according to riot, she's account shared since then


No. She shared before. She didnt' share her account after he was banned, she merely played with his evasion accounts and pm'd with them.
over 10 years

Lashka says

@Arcbell

She used ErisCache to reveal the alt of some Sandboxer (TheDriver or someone) so he got harassed, or some . I didn't care much because Sandbox drama is lol, but her posts in it made me snort.


that sounds incredibly lame
over 10 years

thebrontosaurus says

Yeah, of course. It was a dumb thing to do and I hope she's aware of that by now.


it was a dumb thing to do twice*
deletedover 10 years
posting to say Im on Lashka's side here.

I havent read more than a page of the thread though. That's just my impression