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Dearest Kino

deletedabout 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

deletedabout 10 years
Her lying to Josh is why I am personally angry.

The rest of what she did is for the community to judge because I'm not protecting her anymore.
Arcbell
about 10 years

Satan says


Arcbell says

well ok it's true she shouldn't have shared. this isn't really the most serious offense though and for an extra mod tool from an ex-mod that has his stripes it probably seemed like a good idea at the time.


she did it so she could see what ppl are saying about her.

it wasn't for any other purpose related to modding


well thats just your conjecture isn't it
Arcbell
about 10 years
we all know the real offense that's on trial here is lying to josh about riot betraying him.

i'm just saying while it was a bad move, it was likely a desperate one
deletedabout 10 years
Letting a non-mod do hundreds of reports is a pretty bad idea in any situation imo.
Satan
about 10 years

Arcbell says

well ok it's true she shouldn't have shared. this isn't really the most serious offense though and for an extra mod tool from an ex-mod that has his stripes it probably seemed like a good idea at the time.


she did it so she could see what ppl are saying about her.

it wasn't for any other purpose related to modding
Hibiki
about 10 years

OP says

And when your arguing with Eris

Arcbell
about 10 years
well ok it's true she shouldn't have shared. this isn't really the most serious offense though and for an extra mod tool from an ex-mod that has his stripes it probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
Satan
about 10 years

Arcbell says


Lashka says

I was shown it by someone else Eris talks to. He and I haven't talked since those forum suspensions, though until today I wasn't aware what he thought he'd done, just that he was apparently "betrayed by me".


oooooh i see i see

well, looking from kino's perspective if eris tells her the alts, she is pressured from being a mod to out them. on pain of misconduct. if she outs them then eris gets mad and outs the account sharing (pain of misconduct) so either way kino is kinda screwed and pinning it on you was likely just a way out of a bad situation... a situation she partly created, but only partly.


MORAL OF THE STORY. don't share your mod account with banned users, or anyone really.
Sims
about 10 years
don't account share if you're a mod. she should have already learned her lesson
Hibiki
about 10 years
she could have just not shared
Satan
about 10 years

Cantankerous says


Satan says


Cantankerous says

oliver was never intended to be a secret alt. i got yelled at for implying it was when kino told me it was. but it wasn't meant to be.


well maybe.


her asking ppl to keep her account secret sounds like a secret alt to me


that's what i thought.


oh well!
Arcbell
about 10 years

Lashka says

I was shown it by someone else Eris talks to. He and I haven't talked since those forum suspensions, though until today I wasn't aware what he thought he'd done, just that he was apparently "betrayed by me".


oooooh i see i see

well, looking from kino's perspective if eris tells her the alts, she is pressured from being a mod to out them. on pain of misconduct. if she outs them then eris gets mad and outs the account sharing (pain of misconduct) so either way kino is kinda screwed and pinning it on you was likely just a way out of a bad situation... a situation she partly created, but only partly.
deletedabout 10 years

Satan says


Cantankerous says

oliver was never intended to be a secret alt. i got yelled at for implying it was when kino told me it was. but it wasn't meant to be.


well maybe.


her asking ppl to keep her account secret sounds like a secret alt to me


that's what i thought.
Satan
about 10 years

Sims says

replace kino with benjamin250


alternatively, replace kino with stan
deletedabout 10 years
I was shown it by someone else Eris talks to. He and I haven't talked since those forum suspensions, though until today I wasn't aware what he thought he'd done, just that he was apparently "betrayed by me".
TheShane
about 10 years

Sims says

replace kino with benjamin250


chitose 4 mod
Satan
about 10 years

Cantankerous says

oliver was never intended to be a secret alt. i got yelled at for implying it was when kino told me it was. but it wasn't meant to be.


well maybe.


her asking ppl to keep her account secret sounds like a secret alt to me
deletedabout 10 years

Sims says

replace kino with benjamin250

Arcbell
about 10 years

Satan says


Lashka says


ScubaSteve says


Satan says

if kino gets demodded, will she be remodded again on a secret alt?


stan asks the important questions, like benjamin250


From this point onwards, I will always refer to Satan as "Stan".


you wouldn't be the first!


or the last, stan
Sims
about 10 years
replace kino with benjamin250
Arcbell
about 10 years
ok ok .... riot: how do you actually know kino lied to eris about who outed his alts? i assume he told you this?
Satan
about 10 years

Lashka says


ScubaSteve says


Satan says

if kino gets demodded, will she be remodded again on a secret alt?


stan asks the important questions, like benjamin250


From this point onwards, I will always refer to Satan as "Stan".


you wouldn't be the first!
deletedabout 10 years

runwithfire says


Lashka says


Retti says

the real and objective thing about this matter is if kino is going to step down as mod because of this


Going back to this, I don't think she should have a choice, frankly.


you mean like how Chuck Hagel "stepped down"

if so, yes


Well, I think she should be forceably demodded, with or without her consent.
deletedabout 10 years

Lashka says


ScubaSteve says


Satan says

if kino gets demodded, will she be remodded again on a secret alt?


stan asks the important questions, like benjamin250


From this point onwards, I will always refer to Satan as "Stan".


so some good came out of this thread. excellent.
Arcbell
about 10 years

Hibiki says

ive never had access to eriscache/erissearch in order to search my own name


you have to either be a friend of eris or a mod in a time frame just preceding riot's fall.