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Dearest Kino

deletedabout 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

jack
about 10 years

TMJuke says


Satan says

Are any of the mods actually modding this site because they want to see it prosper or are they doing it for the "power" or the "respect" they think they automatically get with the position?


The real answer is they're just doing it because their friends are doing it and it seems appealing because of that.

There isn't really a soul in the mod team who is willing to drive the community in a positive way, implement the correct kind of change and so on and so forth. They're just doing their reports for the most part, and then circle jerking the victim card when required to do so.


It's a shame, because there are definitely people with that mindset on this site, they just aren't mods so they can't change anything
Arcbell
about 10 years

jackattack123 says

Correct me if im wrong, did somebody (arcbell maybe idr) say they don't want kino to be punished because she's nice? That's laughable favoritism right there.

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this even after scrolling through the whole thread because most of it is pretty over my head. What i did get is that she account shared with eris while she was a mod, that was bad, and that may have had a hand in the refunds. If you want to maintain some air of professionalism with the mods, she should probably get demodded, to at least save face.


No I just don't think one person should take the fall for something many have done.
deletedabout 10 years

kino says


Lashka says

(coincidentally, the ones who leaked this to me)


too bad a lot of it is so wrong


Guess that friendship group isn't as tight as it seems then when you're all and (supposedly) lying about each other behind each other's back then.
Edark
about 10 years

Lashka says

Lucid being around made things more difficult, not easier. When Laexio was admin, Lucid was also barely ever around, and we had none of these issues then, because Alex just didn't tolerate idiots.


Spittin' hard truth
deletedabout 10 years

Satan says

Are any of the mods actually modding this site because they want to see it prosper or are they doing it for the "power" or the "respect" they think they automatically get with the position?


The real answer is they're just doing it because their friends are doing it and it seems appealing because of that.

There isn't really a soul in the mod team who is willing to drive the community in a positive way, implement the correct kind of change and so on and so forth. They're just doing their reports for the most part, and then circle jerking the victim card when required to do so.
jack
about 10 years

jackattack123 says

Correct me if im wrong, did somebody (arcbell maybe idr) say they don't want kino to be punished because she's nice? That's laughable favoritism right there.

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this even after scrolling through the whole thread because most of it is pretty over my head. What i did get is that she account shared with eris while she was a mod, that was bad, and that may have had a hand in the refunds. If you want to maintain some air of professionalism with the mods, she should probably get demodded, to at least save face.


quoting for new page just because this thread is moving a mile a minute
Satan
about 10 years

TMJuke says



We shouldn't judge people on one action alone.


vancy should mod cheaters and other ex-banned users then
Miki
about 10 years

Sims says

did anyone actually read that


yes
jack
about 10 years
Correct me if im wrong, did somebody (arcbell maybe idr) say they don't want kino to be punished because she's nice? That's laughable favoritism right there.

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this even after scrolling through the whole thread because most of it is pretty over my head. What i did get is that she account shared with eris while she was a mod, that was bad, and that may have had a hand in the refunds. If you want to maintain some air of professionalism with the mods, she should probably get demodded, to at least save face.
Sims
about 10 years
i moderated the site to kill time and it was an enjoyable hobby. i left when it stopped being enjoyable (:
Edark
about 10 years
did you read a post? what are you a loser???
TheShane
about 10 years

Satan says

Are any of the mods actually modding this site because they want to see it prosper or are they doing it for the "power" or the "respect" they think they automatically get with the position?


Some won't admit it, but i'm sure there's mods who just wanted the position as a token of accomplishment
kino
about 10 years

Lashka says

(coincidentally, the ones who leaked this to me)


too bad a lot of it is so wrong
Edark
about 10 years
reading is a very Lame thing to do
deletedabout 10 years
Well, Shacky. I think I posted in response to it prematurely.

I didn't read the second paragraph by that point.

As far as Kino's concerned, she rectified her mistake regarding Eris as soon as possible and it's nothing something that she'd do again. Just because you make a mistake once, it doesn't mean you are going to consistently make the same mistake.

We shouldn't judge people on one action alone.
Satan
about 10 years
Are any of the mods actually modding this site because they want to see it prosper or are they doing it for the "power" or the "respect" they think they automatically get with the position?
deletedabout 10 years

Sims says

did anyone actually read that


no
Edark
about 10 years
I think I am the only one capable to bring the mod team back to the Glorious Golden Age

mod me
deletedabout 10 years

thebrontosaurus says


Lashka says

It's enjoyable from the satisfaction you get when you do a job well.


Not from circlejerking. It is a job at the end of the day. A volunteer job, but still a job. And if people aren't going to put the effort in, or are going to make stupid judgements, they are neither qualified nor deserving of a mod position.


of course, I'm just saying there is more than one method of achieving said result.


And perhaps after resigning you should let the next person chose his own way rather than trying to force yours on him and undermine him by all the lazy whiney people (coincidentally, the ones who leaked this to me) running to you and telling you about the big bad new admin actually making them do their jobs.
Sims
about 10 years
did anyone actually read that
Arcbell
about 10 years
Hi my pasta wasn't ready. And dan it's not spaghetti its rigatoni.
deletedabout 10 years

Retti says

I'm gonna make a serious post about the current state of the mod team that I've kind of had to hold my tongue about either because I was a mod or I simply wasn't agitated enough to talk about it. There really is a current mindset in the team that is essentially bringing them down which is just noticeable from the mod chat, and while I wouldn't want to credit justrec and his conspiracy theory on everyone being 'corrupt circlejerkers' there's a mentality where mods treat themselves above the community to a point where threads like these either are ignored or turn into in-jokes in the mod chat that I've seen from time to time. I think Mods should be respected but there has to be a balance between respecting someone for being a mod but also deserving it. A main problem with the team as of right now is that there isn't really any driving force to it, and you have a lot of mods who are basically report machines and nothing more. I've always held the opinion that for the most part the forums serve a niche, but usually these matters only develop on the forums because it's filled with filthy caremads such as myself who care about the health and stability of the site, and it surprises and somewhat upsets me that this thread is being passively ignored by all the mods.

The reason things were so much better off back then is because mods garnered respect because they still focused on the importance of the community, while I feel that the current mod team is instead backed into a corner and letting the community run them instead of the other way around. It's been talked to death but no matter how you look at this, sharing your account isn't acceptable. It should be an instant demodding. No questions asked. No amount of ability or amount of reports you can offer should be discussed because reports are but one aspect of modding, and most mods have seemed to forgot that.


Good post.
thebrontosaurus
about 10 years

Lashka says

It's enjoyable from the satisfaction you get when you do a job well.


Not from circlejerking. It is a job at the end of the day. A volunteer job, but still a job. And if people aren't going to put the effort in, or are going to make stupid judgements, they are neither qualified nor deserving of a mod position.


of course, I'm just saying there is more than one method of achieving said result.
Edark
about 10 years

ScubaSteve says



deletedabout 10 years
It's enjoyable from the satisfaction you get when you do a job well.


Not from circlejerking. It is a job at the end of the day. A volunteer job, but still a job. And if people aren't going to put the effort in, or are going to make stupid judgements, they are neither qualified nor deserving of a mod position.