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Dearest Kino

deletedabout 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

deletedabout 10 years
Best ask Josh to rehost and give you access to it then.
Laexio
about 10 years

Lashka says


Laexio says

what's eriscache?


Database of BanID's that tells you everyone's alts. Think the old spreadsheets; but constantly updated by a mod account running a script and hosted online.


what's that other thing? erissearch? i want to search the games for my name
deletedabout 10 years
I wasn't admin during Adsense, Shane. ;)
Arcbell
about 10 years

Cantankerous says


Laexio says

what's eriscache?


grandpa laexio makes a post

Laexio
about 10 years

Cantankerous says


Laexio says

what's eriscache?


grandpa laexio makes a post


rahfafarafta
deletedabout 10 years

Laexio says

what's eriscache?


Database of BanID's that tells you everyone's alts. Think the old spreadsheets; but constantly updated by a mod account running a script and hosted online.
deletedabout 10 years

Laexio says

what's eriscache?


grandpa laexio makes a post
Hibiki
about 10 years

Edark says


TheShane says

Riot, do you remember when there was no report or mod affairs to deal with? What was wrong with it?




the big ol Report thread


IM GETTIN FLASHBACKS
TheShane
about 10 years

Lashka says

Frankly the tightening up of refunds to fix that problem was my greatest (and perhaps only lasting) legacy from when I was admin.


I thought it was adsense
Laexio
about 10 years
what's eriscache?
deletedabout 10 years
Frankly the tightening up of refunds to fix that problem was my greatest (and perhaps only lasting) legacy from when I was admin.
Sims
about 10 years

TheShane says


Sims says

i don't really see how mafia is built on lies. lying about what role alignment you are isnt that big of a deal


When was the last time the main forums have been a primarily positive place.


whenever i post
voryn
about 10 years

Arcbell says

No I just don't think one person should take the fall for something many have done.


That is exactly how examples and precedent work, one person takes it and the rest are intimidated. EM moderators get a free pass to do any behavior or favoritism because of just that attitude you state, with Vancy/Lucid failing to properly dismantle the circlejerk where it rots most
deletedabout 10 years

TheShane says


Lashka says


TheShane says

Riot, do you remember when there was no report or mod affairs to deal with? What was wrong with it?




If you're advocating the abolition of mods: the utterly unplayable games is what was wrong with it. The last couple of months of 2.0 were trash. Almost every trophy was won by cheats, spammers & throwers ran wild, and the decent players were quitting in droves. Some came back later, but some never did.


I wasn't, I was asking for your perspective on the site before mods were a thing.

Even though we have reports and what, wouldn't you say that people rely on reports a bit too much now? It seems like for some people, reporting is the first thing they do when something doesn't go their way.


I think this was a major problem a year ago, which was rectified by the extreme tightening up of the refunds policy. I no longer believe this to be a problem.

This is actually a really good example of the mod team policies evolving because of a problem though. Something which needs to happen again for the lack of professionalism/care.
Satan
about 10 years
13/f/cali
TheShane
about 10 years

Sims says

i don't really see how mafia is built on lies. lying about what role alignment you are isnt that big of a deal


When was the last time the main forums have been a primarily positive place.
Edark
about 10 years
Hello E-Girls, do you know that Im a very nice and cool guy who likes to talk to E-Girls all night and ohmygod I love nutella

add me on skype pls ;)
TheShane
about 10 years

Lashka says


TheShane says

Riot, do you remember when there was no report or mod affairs to deal with? What was wrong with it?




If you're advocating the abolition of mods: the utterly unplayable games is what was wrong with it. The last couple of months of 2.0 were trash. Almost every trophy was won by cheats, spammers & throwers ran wild, and the decent players were quitting in droves. Some came back later, but some never did.


I wasn't, I was asking for your perspective on the site before mods were a thing.

Even though we have reports and what, wouldn't you say that people rely on reports a bit too much now? It seems like for some people, reporting is the first thing they do when something doesn't go their way.
Miki
about 10 years

Edark says

E-Girls for E-Dark B]


try your moves on hina first
Edark
about 10 years
E-Girls for E-Dark B]
Sims
about 10 years
i don't really see how mafia is built on lies. lying about what role alignment you are isnt that big of a deal
Edark
about 10 years

Miki says


Edark says

isnt gary too old to have crushes on 17 year olds


that's how its always been. + he moves from one to the next


Its my turn to get them E-Girls
TheShane
about 10 years

TMJuke says

I shan't dismiss your sentiments, but I also feel like they don't really reflect on my own. I agree with what you say here, but my discussion is more directed at the fact that she is ONLY being judged for a mistake. People need to understand that negatives are not the only thing that exist in a person when they make a mistake.


You're right, but people will always look at the negatives, especially on a site built around deception and lies.
deletedabout 10 years

jackattack123 says

Also, Riot's making a good point about the mods and professionalism/circle-jerking


My points are usually good, frankly.
deletedabout 10 years

TheShane says

Riot, do you remember when there was no report or mod affairs to deal with? What was wrong with it?




If you're advocating the abolition of mods: the utterly unplayable games is what was wrong with it. The last couple of months of 2.0 were trash. Almost every trophy was won by cheats, spammers & throwers ran wild, and the decent players were quitting in droves. Some came back later, but some never did.