Epicmafia

Dearest Kino

deletedover 10 years

Since my 'rehabilitation' I have done my best to avoid causing or being a part of any major drama on this site, and I have done it quite well. So when I discovered that you'd been account sharing with Eris as a mod, and let him do hundreds of reports just so you could use ErisCache and ErisSearch to search for people talking about you in games, and Eris was busily forum suspending moderators, I merely let Vancy know that it's possible to still log into an account after the password is changed, via cookie sessions, and agreed not to post this on the forums or cause any drama.

When you were remodded, and playing with Eris in Sandbox & PM'ing him on his evasion accounts, I also ignored this, because it was none of my business, I had told Vancy my concerns, I had warned you to stop, and it was none of my business. Two instantly demoddable offences that you got away with.

However, when you lied to Josh and told him that I'd outed his alts (which, due to the fact I didn't have ErisCache back then, I didn't even know - perhaps you should try a more plausible cover story next time), it became my business. I dislike it when people lie about me, strangely. And when your arguing with Eris led to him causing these mass refunds that have caused me to waste a week of my life running for a trophy that's now gone down the drain, that annoyed me even more.

If you're going to manipulate intelligent people, be aware of the consequences. I never knew Josh's alts, therefore I couldn't have told Vancy or anyone other mod what they were. Don't use me an excuse for things you've done and bring down someone's anger on me when I've done nothing but favours for you by not outing this before.

Oh, and as I did warn you before, I suppose it's natural to say "I told you so".

Edark

over 10 years

TheShane says

Riot, do you remember when there was no report or mod affairs to deal with? What was wrong with it?

the big ol Report thread

jack

over 10 years

Also, Riot's making a good point about the mods and professionalism/circle-jerking

TheShane

over 10 years

Riot, do you remember when there was no report or mod affairs to deal with? What was wrong with it?

Miki

over 10 years

Edark says

isnt gary too old to have crushes on 17 year olds

that's how its always been. + he moves from one to the next

deletedover 10 years

TheShane says

TMJuke says

Her good qualities completely outweigh her bad. How many things must she do correctly in order for a mistake to be overlooked? Why are people ONLY focusing on the one negative (albeit a major one).

It's human nature to only look at the negatives. If you look at criticism, for example, I find getting positive feedback nice and all, but it's not what I want. Look at people producing content, do they really care about the positive comments on their work? Of course, but they take the negative comments to heart more.

I shan't dismiss your sentiments, but I also feel like they don't really reflect on my own. I agree with what you say here, but my discussion is more directed at the fact that she is ONLY being judged for a mistake. People need to understand that negatives are not the only thing that exist in a person when they make a mistake.

Edark

over 10 years

isnt gary too old to have crushes on 17 year olds

deletedover 10 years

Arcbell says

Lashka says

I think a fresh start to put this stuff to bed when it's become so commonplace is a very good outcome, actually, Arc.

What does that fresh start end up looking like though?

Who knows? That's not for me to decide. I am not the admin nor will I ever be.

But one where the professionalism is restored, people do reports like they're supposed to and don't continually leak and account share to/with non-mods is not such a bad thing. The ships used to be tightly run without being unenjoyable. I don't think any mod who modded under Laexio will criticise how he ran the team at all.

kino

over 10 years

Miki says

kino says

the only way it affected the refunds is because he liked me or w/e and it sort of indirectly affected his will to troll me and therefore the site

he couldve done it had he never shared w me

lets not out crushes like that

this is common knowledge i'm not outting anything, unless u were joking

deletedover 10 years

jackattack123 says

probably the OP, like i said 90% went a mile over my head. I'm sure there are going to be people upset if she's demodded and people upset if she isn't, luckily not my job to decide

It's just one of those things.

It doesn't need a 20+ page forum thread designated to the discussion though, it should be dealt with internally.

kino

over 10 years

Lashka says

Indirectly. Snort.

I was shown pm's and saw games where you played with his evasion accounts.

show please? if i played with them, i was unaware it was him until i was aware it was him and then banned it.

deletedover 10 years

Arcbell says

jackattack123 says

Correct me if im wrong, did somebody (arcbell maybe idr) say they don't want kino to be punished because she's nice? That's laughable favoritism right there.

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this even after scrolling through the whole thread because most of it is pretty over my head. What i did get is that she account shared with eris while she was a mod, that was bad, and that may have had a hand in the refunds. If you want to maintain some air of professionalism with the mods, she should probably get demodded, to at least save face.

No I just don't think one person should take the fall for something many have done.

i don't know of anyone ese that has account shared as is currently a mod.

Arcbell

over 10 years

Lashka says

I think a fresh start to put this stuff to bed when it's become so commonplace is a very good outcome, actually, Arc.

What does that fresh start end up looking like though?

Satan

over 10 years

Sims says

i will reform the mod team and make it run at 200% efficiency

mod me

TheShane

over 10 years

TMJuke says

Her good qualities completely outweigh her bad. How many things must she do correctly in order for a mistake to be overlooked? Why are people ONLY focusing on the one negative (albeit a major one).

It's human nature to only look at the negatives. If you look at criticism, for example, I find getting positive feedback nice and all, but it's not what I want. Look at people producing content, do they really care about the positive comments on their work? Of course, but they take the negative comments to heart more.

jack

over 10 years

TMJuke says

jackattack123 says

Correct me if im wrong, did somebody (arcbell maybe idr) say they don't want kino to be punished because she's nice? That's laughable favoritism right there.

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this even after scrolling through the whole thread because most of it is pretty over my head. What i did get is that she account shared with eris while she was a mod, that was bad, and that may have had a hand in the refunds. If you want to maintain some air of professionalism with the mods, she should probably get demodded, to at least save face.

It's not favouritism at all.

Her good qualities completely outweigh her bad. How many things must she do correctly in order for a mistake to be overlooked? Why are people ONLY focusing on the one negative (albeit a major one).

probably the OP, like i said 90% went a mile over my head. I'm sure there are going to be people upset if she's demodded and people upset if she isn't, luckily not my job to decide

Miki

over 10 years

kino says

the only way it affected the refunds is because he liked me or w/e and it sort of indirectly affected his will to troll me and therefore the site

he couldve done it had he never shared w me

lets not out crushes like that

deletedover 10 years

I think a fresh start to put this stuff to bed when it's become so commonplace is a very good outcome, actually, Arc.

Sims

over 10 years

i will reform the mod team and make it run at 200% efficiency

deletedover 10 years

Satan says

TMJuke says

We shouldn't judge people on one action alone.

vancy should mod cheaters and other ex-banned users then

I still stand by what I said. I wouldn't raise any eyebrows if he were to mode an ex cheater/ex banned user, depending on the severity of the case for those individuals, and their reputations that follow them.

deletedover 10 years

Indirectly. Snort.

I was shown pm's and saw games where you played with his evasion accounts.

Arcbell

over 10 years

Lashka says

This is as good a chance as there will be to start a clean slate, Arcbell.

Is that what you really want from all this?

Miki

over 10 years

well kinos keeping her position until she does something like this again (which she probably wont + will continue to do a good job) sooo

kino

over 10 years

the only way it affected the refunds is because he liked me or w/e and it sort of indirectly affected his will to troll me and therefore the site

he couldve done it had he never shared w me

deletedover 10 years

This is as good a chance as there will be to start a clean slate, Arcbell.

deletedover 10 years

jackattack123 says

Correct me if im wrong, did somebody (arcbell maybe idr) say they don't want kino to be punished because she's nice? That's laughable favoritism right there.

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this even after scrolling through the whole thread because most of it is pretty over my head. What i did get is that she account shared with eris while she was a mod, that was bad, and that may have had a hand in the refunds. If you want to maintain some air of professionalism with the mods, she should probably get demodded, to at least save face.

It's not favouritism at all.

Her good qualities completely outweigh her bad. How many things must she do correctly in order for a mistake to be overlooked? Why are people ONLY focusing on the one negative (albeit a major one).