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Post Unbanned Cheaters' Accounts

about 11 years

When players who were banned for cheating are let back into either of the competition-running lobbies, they should undergo a probationary period during which they lose privacy rights for all accounts, be they linked alts or clean-slate mains. The mods can set up a thread with a list of all accounts held by recently unbanned cheaters and either (a) consistently monitor users who have made the list or (b) install a simple account approval process whereby failure to inform the mods of newly registered accounts constitutes a violation of the rules.

This might be worth a go for any game-related ban, not just cheating, but that would probably involve a lot more maintenance.

about 11 years

Giga says

All violations should be viewable by every user on user profiles and all accumulated violations should be on all linked accounts for viewing

Proxys should also not be allowed

All linked accounts should also be viewable to all moderators

But none of these things are in place. We can't really do much about it either.


'All secret alts of any user wiht 1 or more violation should be known'

Plz no.
about 11 years
implying that what happened with howl wouldnt happen to one of these cheaters
about 11 years

Peta says

it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.



Peta says

it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.



Peta says

it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.



Peta says

it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.



Peta says

it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.



Peta says

it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.

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Giga says

All violations should be viewable by every user on user profiles and all accumulated violations should be on all linked accounts for viewing

Proxys should also not be allowed

All linked accounts should also be viewable to all moderators

But none of these things are in place. We can't really do much about it either.


No

No

No
about 11 years

Ronny says


Kerry says

> on probation period
> it's publicly known
> everyone avoids
great way to show you've reformed when no one will play with you


Yeah this is actually a good point. The community would have to actively ease some of the stigma towards cheaters, which I don't see happening easily. It's possible though (also possible it could backfire horribly).


No, it's not a good point. There is an abundance of plenty of well-known cheaters who have been able to play games without much hassle. Kerry's making a statistical argument and she's basing it on false statistics that she made up in her head.
about 11 years
All violations should be viewable by every user on user profiles and all accumulated violations should be on all linked accounts for viewing

Proxys should also not be allowed

All linked accounts should also be viewable to all moderators

But none of these things are in place. We can't really do much about it either.
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Kerry says

people avoid petri


for numerous reasons, one of the least being that he cheated.
about 11 years
I don't support profile marks, I support a thread containing all the names in the op; preferably locked.
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and i get why considering the extent but yeah
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you're exaggerating the amount of dodges you'd receive.
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people avoid petri
about 11 years
Though to be fair no one avoided playing with anthony and it was publicly known he'd cheated in the past.
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Kerry says

> on probation period
> it's publicly known
> everyone avoids
great way to show you've reformed when no one will play with you


Yeah this is actually a good point. The community would have to actively ease some of the stigma towards cheaters, which I don't see happening easily. It's possible though (also possible it could backfire horribly).
about 11 years

SystemOverload says

Peta doesn't want to play with people that have previously cheated, which implies he believes that people that have previously cheated are very likely to cheat again.


It doesn't imply I believe they are very likely to cheat again but it does imply that they are more likely than anyone else to cheat, that they are more likely than anyone else to break other rules, and that it's not fair to me and the rest of the user base to shoulder the discomfort of not knowing which sketchy alt is an unbanned cheater and which is just a run-of-the-mill throwaway alt.
about 11 years

Kerry says

> on probation period
> it's publicly known
> everyone avoids
great way to show you've reformed when no one will play with you


This was my point though.
about 11 years
Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate.
about 11 years
> on probation period
> it's publicly known
> everyone avoids
great way to show you've reformed when no one will play with you
about 11 years

Ronny says

A publicly available list seems redundant and unnecessary if you can always check people's profiles for the mark, like in a game, which is the only time the information is necessary.


yeah that's actually true. profile/in-game mark is the best way to go
about 11 years
Fine.
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SystemOverload says

Peta doesn't want to play with people that have previously cheated, which implies he believes that people that have previously cheated are very likely to cheat again.


because there's plenty of evidence that would suggest it
about 11 years
Peta doesn't want to play with people that have previously cheated, which implies he believes that people that have previously cheated are very likely to cheat again.
about 11 years

Kerry says

because everyones going to forget it after a public shaming has commenced by this community. get real



Kerry says

its openly known that ive cheated in the past + i don't get slammed for it


??????????????????
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A publicly available list seems redundant and unnecessary if you can always check people's profiles for the mark, like in a game, which is the only time the information is necessary.
about 11 years

Kerry says

im sorry but if you want to know if someones cheated go look it up in the reports. its just not needed to be announced publicly


You can't look up whether an anonymous alt has cheated. You managed to miss the chief point of this thread.
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system, i think a lot of your "cheaters are made into subhuman evil people" stems from yourself because that's how you see it. you're the only one spouting dumbass judgement about cheaters as people.