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Post Unbanned Cheaters' Accounts

over 10 years

When players who were banned for cheating are let back into either of the competition-running lobbies, they should undergo a probationary period during which they lose privacy rights for all accounts, be they linked alts or clean-slate mains. The mods can set up a thread with a list of all accounts held by recently unbanned cheaters and either (a) consistently monitor users who have made the list or (b) install a simple account approval process whereby failure to inform the mods of newly registered accounts constitutes a violation of the rules.

This might be worth a go for any game-related ban, not just cheating, but that would probably involve a lot more maintenance.

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SystemOverload says

My impression of former cheaters when joining was that they were blackhearted and avoid-at-all-cost material.


i don't equate cheating with bad morality, as you seem to have done numerous times. do you feel a lot of guilt for associating with epicmafia cheaters?
over 10 years
Kerry is right by the way; people that cheated with themselves rather than other people are more likely to repeat.
over 10 years
anyone could find a cheater by looking @ reports so public announcements arent needed lol???
deletedover 10 years
I'd think that a probation period would actually be beneficial to your 'people can change' argument, System. Cheaters who never go back to cheating are quickly forgotten, their change going unnoticed. A probation period would provide a record of those who chose not to recidivate, ultimately supporting your argument if it is valid.
over 10 years

Cantankerous says


SystemOverload says

Would you say that anthony is likely to cheat again?


well cheating is just a numbers game. so yes.


Wanna bet?
over 10 years
i think you misunderstand, system. i like anthony but i do not trust him
over 10 years

SystemOverload says

Would you say that anthony is likely to cheat again?


Yes.
over 10 years
My impression of former cheaters when joining was that they were blackhearted and avoid-at-all-cost material.
deletedover 10 years

SystemOverload says

Would you say that anthony is likely to cheat again?


well cheating is just a numbers game. so yes.
over 10 years

SystemOverload says

It gives people a misguided first impression of said players.


Agreed: We would be misguiding people by informing them that a cheater cheated.
over 10 years
theres nothing wrong with a probationary period, system
i had nothing to fear when i came back because i had 0 intention of breaking rules
over 10 years
Peta; read.
over 10 years
if his heart's in the right place
deletedover 10 years

SystemOverload says

It gives people a misguided first impression of said players.


what is wrong about telling players that the player is a former cheater? that's just facts.
over 10 years
Would you say that anthony is likely to cheat again?
over 10 years
on the contrary, it is not misguided
over 10 years
It gives people a misguided first impression of said players.
over 10 years

Peta says


SystemOverload says

The probation period isn't necessary; you're just finding and excuse to put a further extension on the ban period, not much not much less.


You unequivocally just described lack of a ban without permission to keep private alts as "a further extension on the ban period." Please note that, in doing so, you equated "lack of a ban" - which is an antonym of "ban" - with "ban."

deletedover 10 years

SystemOverload says

What sort of player actually plays with someone with a giant red warning flag hovering over them?


https://epicmafia.com/user/317204#/
over 10 years

SystemOverload says

The probation period isn't necessary; you're just finding and excuse to put a further extension on the ban period, not much not much less.


You literally just described lack of a ban without permission to keep private alts as "a further extension on the ban period." Please note that, in doing so, you equated "lack of a ban" - which is an antonym of "ban" - with "ban."
deletedover 10 years
i don't see how it is a further extension rather it would be a judge of character and make it less likely for them to cheat and ruin games again, and also to catch if they happen to do so.
over 10 years

Shivv says

why are you against a stricter policy against cheaters, system?


mayhap he has ulterior motives
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Happeh says

i have to excuse my own previous use, bear. let's not fight about this


get christined in a lake of ***, ***.
over 10 years
What sort of player actually plays with someone with a giant red warning flag hovering over them?
deletedover 10 years
why are you against a stricter policy against cheaters, system?