okay well then if we’re throwing out the idea of the senior council which was met with understandable backlash lets raise my issues with this thread
one megathread for every issue that happens is a guaranteed clusterfuck (as evident)
muting people for having issues with said thread is unprofessional and defeats the idea of a thread where people can discuss issues they have with the lobby and the people in it
you seem to think that this thread is going to solve a lot of the issues sandbox has when in reality the things that happen are all up to alyssa, not anyone appointed by you or anyone else
this thread is unnecessary and the “senior council” was even more so. they exist purely to stir up drama, not to actually discuss problems.
there are absolutely issues that we as a lobby should talk about, but theres no reason they cant stay in their own topics, on discord, or on lobby wall.
if you have an issue with the lobby, talk to alyssa about it. leave handling problems to the people who hold the position to.
You're right, its not bullying. What is bullying is calling people out, and leading a lynch mob against them in-games when you could have very easily kicked them to begin with. If kicking isn't an option, then perhaps ask them to leave and/or create a new game, or sit that game out and wait for the next. You shouldn't ever have to be in contact with people that make you uncomfortable, but you also shouldn't antagonize the situation either, which is what both you and Vivian did in games with Phlorax on his kazo account.
And yes, stealing personal info should be a perma-ban imo, too. I don't like that there's people running around here, spending there time digging for personal info on users.
It literally says Community. You are all still hung up on the "other" councils. If I could change the Title, I would, but I can't and people have already brought up good points here. If all you're worried about is a title, then you aren't here for the right reasons to begin with.
backseat modding is only going to cause more problems.
you can make as many “councils” with whoever you want, but the fact of the matter is they mean absolutely nothing because the final decisions on what happen in this lobby are alyssas and the site mods.
Once again, the point of this thread is to discuss community issues that are affecting the community. It is not a thread to yell about how you think councils are stupid, or that I've only created it in retaliation of users bullying Phlorax.
If you don't like it, you don't have to post anything. It is 100% voluntary.
When you guys decide you want to actually contribute, instead of attack me for creating a community forum, you can let me know. Until then, you can be muted.
SirAmelio 5s y'all taking councils seriously do realize theres literally an owner and mod team making the calls and if they wanted to know the community's opinion they can ask?
So yeah stop it. If you are serious about wanting to help the community, talk to Alyssa and ask her for a mod position. Otherwise they are not needed and nobody asked for them
Stop being so defensive, I'm literally asking questions to keep the topic going and get to the depths of your suggestions for rule changes.
what am i being defensive of? you're the one who made it sound like 'oh well if its a popular user you probably want them to stay right? checkmate' in your previous question. there's nothing to defend against you, if anything you're trying to defend phlorax the ip stealer
and bannable offenses are never going to be implemented by some words i say
You are very incapable of holding a conversation without getting offended or feeling attacked. It's okay though, thank you for your input.
Stop being so defensive, I'm literally asking questions to keep the topic going and get to the depths of your suggestions for rule changes.
what am i being defensive of? you're the one who made it sound like 'oh well if its a popular user you probably want them to stay right? checkmate' in your previous question. there's nothing to defend against you, if anything you're trying to defend phlorax the ip stealer
and bannable offenses are never going to be implemented by some words i say
SirAmelio 5s y'all taking councils seriously do realize theres literally an owner and mod team making the calls and if they wanted to know the community's opinion they can ask?
So yeah stop it. If you are serious about wanting to help the community, talk to Alyssa and ask her for a mod position. Otherwise they are not needed and nobody asked for them
phlorax shouldve been banned but he wasnt, and he should thoroughly expect backlash for what he did
Ok, so you believe IP hacking/hidden linking should be punishable with a permaban, even if its a first-time offender? What if someone like user baabaa, a well-known, beloved user, hidden linked you to obtain your IP address. Should user baabaa be perma-banned?
What other crimes against the community do you think should result in a perma-ban?
are you expecting me to be like oH nO nOt emMA anYoNE buUt HeR oH nOoooOoooooOoOOo
but absolutely! if emma did that she should be permabanned too! stealing someone's ip shows that you're scum! its not like phlorax was some nobody; he's been in sandbox for awhile, but yeah, popular, unpopular, or whatever, you deserve to be banned
and i think you can rationalize what some bannable offenses should be, it really shouldn't be hard to decide that some things are unforgiveable
Stop being so defensive, I'm literally asking questions to keep the topic going and get to the depths of your suggestions for rule changes.
SirAmelio 5s y'all taking councils seriously do realize theres literally an owner and mod team making the calls and if they wanted to know the community's opinion they can ask?
So yeah stop it. If you are serious about wanting to help the community, talk to Alyssa and ask her for a mod position. Otherwise they are not needed and nobody asked for them