Pro Lifer Punched

SnowPuppyover 7 years ago

A Pro-Life man was punched while trying to say babies in front of Planned Parenthood.

Video in link below:

https://www.liveaction.org/news/pro-life-assaulted-abortion-facility/?utm_content=83151986&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&hss_channel=tw-18001922

NYC also recently passed a law allowing abortion up until birth. Is a baby 1 minute before birth less human then 1 minute after?

Poll
When should it be considered murder to kill a human?
After 2 years old (Peter Singer)19
Conception13
Can feel pain (18-19 weeks)11
Brain Waves Detected (42 days)1
Heartbeat (18 days old)0
deletedover 7 years agoedited
For the record pulling data from a non offical government source and or database is not valid in discussions like this

This is from the National Center of Biotechnology Information a credited source - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271
Linkeover 7 years ago
SnowPuppy I can’t argue against anything that has “God” in it, because it’s a be all end all. Yes, If you follow my line of reasoning, fetus meat farms = animal farms more or less.
DonnieDarkoover 7 years agoedited
SnowPuppy
DonnieDarko
I'm pro-abortion. partly because abortion is going to happen anyway, it may as well be legal and safe. also, I think it's a necessary evil. but stop being in denial about what it is, its ending a life lol
Well, there should be some limit's on it.
Like when the unborn baby is old enough to survive outside the womb. It should be illegal to kill him/her.

Right now in NYC you can kill them 1 min before they are born.

If that's the case why is it bad to kill babies after they are born?

Also abortion may be legal but it is never safe lot's of health complications.
Giving birth is safer then having an abortion.

https://ramahinternational.org/abortion-risks-dangers/
I never made the argument that abortion wasn't "bad". I just said I was pragmatically in favor of it.
legal abortion is much safer than illegal abortion, we weren't talking about giving birth.
deletedover 7 years ago
SnowPuppy
Linke
Breathing and movement are arbitrary cutoffs though as well.
This is dangerous thinking owo.
I think human life is higher then animal life regardless of intelligence levels.

Because we were made in God's image.

Otherwise you can justify human meat farms, as long as you kill them before they reach a certain intelligence level.
Using religion to justify your argument is dangerous.
deletedover 7 years ago
SnowPuppy
Thundurus
Yeah getting an abortion sucks, no one wants to choose that, but sometimes its the right choice
So when would you say it's wrong for someone to have an abortion?
I don't think there is a point in which as a man I have the right to decide, because a child doesn't affect my life in the same way it affects a woman's life.
illuminatiover 7 years ago
??? Do you consider it murder if you swat an insect
Linkeover 7 years ago
What circumstances makes abortion the better choice?
SnowPuppyover 7 years ago
Linke
Breathing and movement are arbitrary cutoffs though as well.
This is dangerous thinking owo.
I think human life is higher then animal life regardless of intelligence levels.

Because we were made in God's image.

Otherwise you can justify human meat farms, as long as you kill them before they reach a certain intelligence level.
Linkeover 7 years ago
“A woman has a choice whether or not to have a child”.
> She chose 39 weeks ago x d.

That woman already has a child, whether they choose to acknowledge that it exists and is alive or not. It’s sad that people can deluded themselves into justifying killing because it suits them.
SnowPuppyover 7 years ago
Thundurus
Yeah getting an abortion sucks, no one wants to choose that, but sometimes its the right choice
So when would you say it's wrong for someone to have an abortion?
deletedover 7 years ago
I wont be voting in the poll because I dislike the terminology used in the question
deletedover 7 years ago
Yeah getting an abortion sucks, no one wants to choose that, but sometimes its the right choice
Linkeover 7 years ago
Breathing and movement are arbitrary cutoffs though as well.
deletedover 7 years ago
Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.
Linkeover 7 years ago
Who cares we exploit animals anyway and they’re smarter than humans born a week ago. It’s all hypocrisy that a democratic world cannot deal with xd.
SnowPuppyover 7 years ago
Old enough to breath, and move.

Can a 2 year old get it's own food?
Linkeover 7 years ago
Old enough to survive how? Can it get it’s own food?
SnowPuppyover 7 years agoedited
DonnieDarko
I'm pro-abortion. partly because abortion is going to happen anyway, it may as well be legal and safe. also, I think it's a necessary evil. but stop being in denial about what it is, its ending a life lol
Well, there should be some limit's on it.
Like when the unborn baby is old enough to survive outside the womb. It should be illegal to kill him/her.

Right now in NYC you can kill them 1 min before they are born.

If that's the case why is it bad to kill babies after they are born?

Also abortion may be legal but it is never safe lot's of health complications.
Giving birth is safer then having an abortion.

https://ramahinternational.org/abortion-risks-dangers/
SnowPuppyover 7 years agoedited
cowgirl
yeah because all women choose to get pregnant ok dude
Would you be willing to ban abortion for everything but r4pe?

Also what do you say to children born out of r4pe, would you tell them they should have been aborted and their mother shouldn't love them?
DonnieDarkoover 7 years ago
I'm pro-abortion. partly because abortion is going to happen anyway, it may as well be legal and safe. also, I think it's a necessary evil. but stop being in denial about what it is, its ending a life lol
Linkeover 7 years ago
@Cowirl imagine a man saying he won’t pay child support because he has the right to do what he wants with his own income. Oh but let’s blame the man for not using protection, that was his choice. Oh wait... women have a choice too.

It doesn’t take a sexist to have the opinion that abortion is wrong, so let’s stop pretending that’s what it’s about.

1) Does an embryo have less right to live than a woman has to her body? The only way this is even barely reasonable is if we accept that embryos aren’t sentient and self aware and are equivalent to animals.
2) It follows that murder isn’t murder until a child is self aware; between 1 and 2 years old.

Abortion is premeditated killing of a fetus. Murder is premeditated killing of a human. If you accept a fetus as human, abortion is murder.

Humanity and life as we describe it are social constructs anyway. You’re probably all Lucid bots.
DonnieDarkoover 7 years ago
"Dr. Julie Mennella, a scientist at the Monell Chemical Senses Center whose research focuses on the development of food and flavor preferences in humans, recently spoke at the International Food Technologists Annual Meeting and Food Expo. Her previous research suggests that flavor preferences begin in the uterus and continue to be influenced until an infant is three to four months old."
cowgirlover 7 years ago
yeah because all women choose to get pregnant ok dude
deletedover 7 years ago
Call it what you want, but if that b**ch does not abort a child in the 18 weeks she's had it I call that careless. Abortions are free if the pregnancy is literally gonna affect the health or well being of the mother or child. Adoption is an option. It's not murder to kill a mound of cells at conception however in my opinion it is murder to kill a developing human being that can feel pain. 18 weeks should be more than enough time, and abortion should NOT be considered a go-to as it's painted today
Shivvover 7 years ago
reminder to read Peter Singer. the right to life is essentially tied to a being's capacity to hold preferences, which in turn is essentially tied to a being's capacity to feel pain and pleasure. Ergo infanticide is OK