So time must be eternal then. Otherwise when did time begin?
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I really do struggle to see why the F*CK it's so hard to get
A woman, lets say, a **pe victim, gets the abortion right. It was not going to be good for her health, and she couldn't support it as she wouldn't know what to do. It wasn't her fault
And look, i could delve sooooo long into why it's just immature and wrong in general to get pregnant, and just kill a baby for their benefit, but at the end of the day.
It's wrong to kill a human being that can feel pain, and think
Pre-time is an oxymoron... or at least it looks like one to me.
deletedover 5 years
For the record the reason i joined the conversation in the first place is because I wanted to share my opinion because I think its important to share your opinion on topics like this.
As VanityPrime pointed out this conversation is going to loop forever because neither side is going to change their opinion.
she doesn't believe that it is killing a child, so you're argument is meaningless. you two are arguing about nothing because you are on completely different foundations, just as VanityPrime said.
You realize the presupposition caked into your argument completely ignores the actual subject matter of why Pro-Life people hold the position that they do.
If you can justify why bodily autonomy outweighs the life of a potential person, that would be a start.
deletedover 5 years
Sexism like Racism, requires Prejudice + Power in society.
Women do not have power over men in society and there are countless statistics that prove that statement.
Voisu do you support financial abortion by the father?
deletedover 5 years
Yeah and lets leave the women to chose to kill a child that could just as easily thrive in foster care. No volsu how SELFISH of me and how SEXIST that i am to consider the unborn childs life rather than "what the woman wants"
Because at the end of the day, I'm just a male, right?
so if you feel that because you have a p e n i s that you are not allowed to have an opinion on this topic, why are you still in the thread or even reading it? you believe you should be removed from this discussion, so remove yourself.
i can kill my neighbor if I want. no one has control over how i choose to live my life
edit: he believes that this "choice" you are speaking of is killing a baby, so you're argument is meaningless. you two are arguing about nothing because you are on completely different foundations, just as VanityPrime said.
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Honestly as a man, Ive never really considered it my choice whether or not a woman chooses to get an abortion, that should never be a man's place to decide.
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[/quote]I find moldy's tone to be consistent with the nastiness she described...[/quote]My cousin of mine who is now 6 years old was born when he was only 5 and a half months. I find it disgusting that people are allowed to murder an uborn child b/c it is a child at 5 and a half months for sure, and not simply look around and say. "You know what, maybe we should set boundaries for this"
men dont have control over womens bodies or how they choose to live their lives, f*ck off with your sexist "well what would the father think?" bullsh*t
[quote=Moldyches][quote=voisu] That is not a source from a government or database. I posted earlier with regards to sourcing, using inauthentic sources with opinion based articles does not validate an argument.
Look, either abortion is removing a nest of unwanted cells, which case getting rid of it is a simple medical operation like an appendicitis, or it's the unjustified killing of an innocent.
Calling it "sad" within the context of your argument is irrelevant and meaningless, it cares no weight other then virtual signaling.
The entire reason why people hold the pro-life position in the first place isn't that they don't value the body autonomy of the woman, but they don't believe that ownership of ones body isn't a sufficient justification for killing a potential person.
This is why this debate can't be resolved is because most people talk past each other without actually considering the actual argument, it's just emotional virtual signaling clothed in apologetics on both sides.
P.S before you ask, I'm not "taking a side" it's just your argument is extremely weak and I don't think you've thought it through as carefully as you think you have.
deletedover 5 years
The universe is eternal.....
Laws that guide our everyday life such as the Law of Conservation of mass prove that the universe is eternal....
so many votes on after 2 years old oO I hope everyone is meme'ing lol
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[quote=voisu][quote=Moldyches] Look if you wanna read the discussion go for it. However it isn't smart to state a hollow ethical statement. "Women have a choice" well jesus wouldn't it suck if the child was female. All you're telling me from that statement is "Women should choose whether or not they want to kill their children". Because i am sure in some cases the dad wants the kid, right? Because in what world or universe would a father wish to have a child. But no, the father doesn't get a single word, b/c it is the woman's baby right?
