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DonnieDarko

Thundurus
DonnieDarko
Thundurus
DonnieDarko
Thundurus
Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.
by "have a child", do you mean "give birth to a child"?
Yes.
it is sad to you that some people don't believe that a woman should have the right to choose whether someone lives or dies?
Abortion in general is always sad.

I think that contextualizing my argument in terms of someone choosing the life or death of someone else is wrong.

I think that ultimately the woman makes the decision as it affects her more then any man can imagine
I agree with you to a point. but you don't believe its ending a life. so why would it be sad?

No one wants to get an abortion, Its never a happy occasion.

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SnowPuppy

Thundurus
Again saying statements without evidence is not an argument.... Its just a baseless claim
Ok, let's start simple then.

I exist. Right?

The passive agressive tone withstanding... Yeah you exist.

Im taking about your previous statement with regards to how abortion is less safe then childbirth. I quoted a study from the government source that states otherwise and I just asked for you to use the same competent sourcing.

DonnieDarkoover 7 years ago

Thundurus

DonnieDarko
Thundurus
DonnieDarko
Thundurus
Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.
by "have a child", do you mean "give birth to a child"?
Yes.
it is sad to you that some people don't believe that a woman should have the right to choose whether someone lives or dies?
Abortion in general is always sad.

I think that contextualizing my argument in terms of someone choosing the life or death of someone else is wrong.

I think that ultimately the woman makes the decision as it affects her more then any man can imagine

I agree with you to a point. but you don't believe its ending a life. so why would it be sad?

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DonnieDarko

Thundurus
DonnieDarko
Thundurus
Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.
by "have a child", do you mean "give birth to a child"?
Yes.
it is sad to you that some people don't believe that a woman should have the right to choose whether someone lives or dies?

Abortion in general is always sad.

I think that contextualizing my argument in terms of someone choosing the life or death of someone else is wrong.

I think that ultimately the woman makes the decision as it affects her more then any man can imagine

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cowgirl

yeah because all women choose to get pregnant ok dude

Yeah because all women are given a choice on when to abort their unborn child ok dude. Don't even try to play the "R*pe" card here because only 5 fcking % of cases result in the woman conceiving. Jesus is it really hard to understand that if you want to get an abortion you should do it. Bc you know in reality its not like killing a clump of cells, or slaughtering an animal for food. No, at this point in time it's a human being sweetheart. The youngest baby born in the US was 22 weeks old. Get your information straight before trying to talk back lady

DonnieDarkoover 7 years agoedited

voisu

this thread should be locked tbh its nasty seeing these ppl come out of the woodwork and argue that abortion is murder

women have the right to a choice, not men, not anyone else

why is it "nasty" that people have a different opinion than you? why should the conversation be forcibly stopped? weirdly authoritarian.

SnowPuppyover 7 years ago

Thundurus

Again saying statements without evidence is not an argument.... Its just a baseless claim

Ok, let's start simple then.

I exist. Right?

DonnieDarkoover 7 years ago

Thundurus

DonnieDarko
Thundurus
Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.
by "have a child", do you mean "give birth to a child"?
Yes.

it is sad to you that some people don't believe that a woman should have the right to choose whether someone lives or dies?

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voisu

this thread should be locked tbh its nasty seeing these ppl come out of the woodwork and argue that abortion is murder

women have the right to a choice, not men, not anyone else

Totally agreed.

voisuover 7 years ago

this thread should be locked tbh its nasty seeing these ppl come out of the woodwork and argue that abortion is murder

women have the right to a choice, not men, not anyone else

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DonnieDarko

Thundurus
Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.
by "have a child", do you mean "give birth to a child"?

Yes.

DonnieDarkoover 7 years ago

Thundurus

Its sad that there are people who don't accept that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not they wish to have a child.

by "have a child", do you mean "give birth to a child"?

SnowPuppyover 7 years ago

illuminati

??? Do you consider it murder if you swat an insect

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SnowPuppy

Thundurus
Using religion to justify your argument is dangerous.
All beliefs begin with axioms.

For example materialism assumes that all that exist's is the physical world.
i.e things we can see, feel, taste, smell, touch.

This excludes the possibility of freewill existing.

I believe that something can't come from nothing.
Intelligence doesn't come from unintelligence.
Life doens't come from non-life.
Order doesn't come from chaos.

All around us is evidence of design.
Design points to a designer.

Genetic code points towards a coder.

Again saying statements without evidence is not an argument.... Its just a baseless claim

DonnieDarkoover 7 years ago

illuminati

Woaw I don't think it's wise to make any further posts in this thread I don't think Linke has his eyes open while typing

this isn't a productive or meaningful contribution.

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Snowpuppy - If you are going to use sources they need to be credible otherwise don't waste peoples time anyone can write an opinion article and post it on the internet in a few minutes

SnowPuppyover 7 years agoedited

Thundurus

Using religion to justify your argument is dangerous.

All beliefs begin with axioms.

For example materialism assumes that all that exist's is the physical world.
i.e things we can see, feel, taste, smell, touch.

This excludes the possibility of freewill existing.

I believe that something can't come from nothing.
Intelligence doesn't come from unintelligence.
Life doens't come from non-life.
Order doesn't come from chaos.

All around us is evidence of design.
Design points to a designer.

Genetic code points towards a coder.

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Linke

Men more frequently have to work to support the child. Should men have the right to call for an abortion for child?

To address the first part of your statement, we live in a society (US) in which men are sadly still considered the breadwinners. I think its instilled in people from a young age that woman have a "Maternal Instinct" when that is not true in any regards.

The second part of your statement, i refer to my previous statement in which pregnancy has a larger affect on woman then men.

Linkeover 7 years ago

Thundurus

Perhaps, but having a child is still a huge burden on the mother regardless, as she is going to have to give up significant time in her job and career

No ones arguing against protection... yet.

illuminatiover 7 years ago

Very illuminating discussion nontheless.

illuminatiover 7 years ago

Woaw I don't think it's wise to make any further posts in this thread I don't think Linke has his eyes open while typing

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SnowPuppy

Thundurus
I don't think there is a point in which as a man I have the right to decide, because a child doesn't affect my life in the same way it affects a woman's life.
But if the mother doesn't want the child the father could care for him/her?

Perhaps, but having a child is still a huge burden on the mother regardless, as she is going to have to give up significant time in her job and career

Linkeover 7 years ago

Men more frequently have to work to support the child. Should men have the right to call for an abortion for child?

Linkeover 7 years ago

Swatting at insects isn’t murder because murder means humans.

But if i say that killing insects = murdering fetuses, a “women have right to their body” would say fair call, because potential for developent is apparently meaningless.

SnowPuppyover 7 years ago

Thundurus

I don't think there is a point in which as a man I have the right to decide, because a child doesn't affect my life in the same way it affects a woman's life.

But if the mother doesn't want the child the father could care for him/her?

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