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about 6 years

Racial Slurs

Malicious use of slurs against players that are based on race and/or ethnicity. We will show absolutely no tolerance towards racist and xenophobic ideals. Expires in 6 months

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  • Site Ban


Discuss.

Zero tolerance?
32
Yes
16
No
about 6 years

Jeff says

a lot of people don’t choose to be offended it’s just a visceral reaction they have to certain vocabulary it’s just how their mind works. I know it’s easy to rectify all this debate in your head with a simple answer because your knowledge of the world is very limited but it’s simply just not that simple. If the solution was “just don’t be offended!” then it would have happened by now dude


Honestly, I have seen people on this site call me many things (most of which they don't understand what my situation is) in a hateful way. But I do not take offense, and it does not change my mindset unless if that person makes a physical change, such as making a meta to lynch me d1 every game. That is basically general hate versus targeted hate (harrassment).
about 6 years

Zhuorb says

banning words is not the solution


I've always been of the opinion that if you say 'frick' but you mean 'fúck' you actually said fúck

it's pointless to sugar coat a pile of dogshít
about 6 years
Good thing I already got my 2 notes and 3 vios for HC before that.
about 6 years
there is no top-down approach to racism because it's about human behaviour. I find it sadly amusing that people actually believe in the HAH NO SLURS RACISM IS CANCELLED story
about 6 years

BeepBeepLettuce says


zambi says


BeepBeepLettuce says


Jeff says

the Infamous “maybe you shouldn’t be offended” argument instead of just advocating for, idk, human decency


maybe just avoid being offended until it is actually hate, rather than something that refers to you that you don't like


to be fair you could also make the argument that the n word 'refers to' a black person, it still is a word rooted in hatred and I'm fairly certain most of us here have a problem with the n word

don't we?


It can refer to anyone nowadays. regardless of history, it has been socially fixed to mean a friend or a set of people in general. Take Mr. Moreno's example in this instance.


whew.
about 6 years
I literally call myself a fàggot how did you make this my supposed slur when I was literally commenting on you supporting the N-word I-
about 6 years

Jeff says

a lot of people don’t choose to be offended it’s just a visceral reaction they have to certain vocabulary it’s just how their mind works. I know it’s easy to rectify all this debate in your head with a simple answer because your knowledge of the world is very limited but it’s simply just not that simple. If the solution was “just don’t be offended!” then it would have happened by now dude


banning words is not the solution either because language isn't restrictive in options. In fact, users of slurs are in some cases (say, using the word to make an argumentative point) less racist than those unironically believing in and propagating racist stereotypes, and holding biased opinions towards certain races.
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Jeff I'm not going to comment on you commenting on me commenting on what you say, honestly, I'm not a boor.
about 6 years
my supposed f-slur? Whew what a comment.
about 6 years

zambi says


BeepBeepLettuce says


Jeff says

the Infamous “maybe you shouldn’t be offended” argument instead of just advocating for, idk, human decency


maybe just avoid being offended until it is actually hate, rather than something that refers to you that you don't like


to be fair you could also make the argument that the n word 'refers to' a black person, it still is a word rooted in hatred and I'm fairly certain most of us here have a problem with the n word

don't we?


It can refer to anyone nowadays. regardless of history, it has been socially fixed to mean a friend or a set of people in general. Take Mr. Moreno's example in this instance.
about 6 years
just make me admin and I'll be supreme ruler of EM, no mods, nothing, just anarchy and my occasional random banning of people I don't particularly like
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Let's just overthrow the corrupt Moderators and enact a Tribunal system instead, let the proletariat rise up and reclaim EM's former glory.
about 6 years

Jeff says

a lot of people don’t choose to be offended it’s just a visceral reaction they have to certain vocabulary it’s just how their mind works. I know it’s easy to rectify all this debate in your head with a simple answer because your knowledge of the world is very limited but it’s simply just not that simple. If the solution was “just don’t be offended!” then it would have happened by now dude


okay, but just saying your supposed f-slur isn't necessarily hateful, it is just achknowledging you as something. i mean, there is more about you than being gay, and you don't necessarily like that particular word for instance, but that does not mean that it is hate or harrassment.
about 6 years
Personally I don't really like the word rétard but it just fits so aptly, if someone can give me an equally usable word I would gladly use that instead
about 6 years
about 6 years
is there anything else I’ve said you wanna comment on linxe or we good
about 6 years

BeepBeepLettuce says


Jeff says

the Infamous “maybe you shouldn’t be offended” argument instead of just advocating for, idk, human decency


maybe just avoid being offended until it is actually hate, rather than something that refers to you that you don't like


to be fair you could also make the argument that the n word 'refers to' a black person, it still is a word rooted in hatred and I'm fairly certain most of us here have a problem with the n word

don't we?
about 6 years

Linxe says

>> Who writes the new rules anyways? Is it moderator responsibility or? Does Lucid hire a team of Lawyers to go brainstorm and then write them into legislation?


arbitrarily decided upon by the moderators online at the time
about 6 years
a lot of people don’t choose to be offended it’s just a visceral reaction they have to certain vocabulary it’s just how their mind works. I know it’s easy to rectify all this debate in your head with a simple answer because your knowledge of the world is very limited but it’s simply just not that simple. If the solution was “just don’t be offended!” then it would have happened by now dude
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The EM Secret Police are coming for you.

But Jeff come on human decency *scoff*. That sounds like some futuristic man.
about 6 years
y'all some crazy n'iggas lol
about 6 years

Linxe says

>> Who writes the new rules anyways? Is it moderator responsibility or? Does Lucid hire a team of Lawyers to go brainstorm and then write them into legislation?


oh sh¡t I've been breaking the law?

oh well
about 6 years

Jeff says

the Infamous “maybe you shouldn’t be offended” argument instead of just advocating for, idk, human decency


maybe just avoid being offended until it is actually hate, rather than something that refers to you that apparently you don't like for some reason
about 6 years
the Infamous “maybe you shouldn’t be offended” argument instead of just advocating for, idk, human decency
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>> Who writes the new rules anyways? Is it moderator responsibility or? Does Lucid hire a team of Lawyers to go brainstorm and then write them into legislation?