about 6 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
50
Cat Lady
26
Vice President
22
the Seer
12
Robinhood
12
Soldier
6
Jack the Ripper
6
Whistleblower
4
Gossiper
almost 6 years

Golbolco says

Personally, I'm not a fan of calling it Clown, Lucas. I, for one, am sick of the negative portrayal of clowns in the media, and associating clowns with the mafia is a bridge too far. I love that icon, though.


Is this a joke?
almost 6 years
Personally, I'm not a fan of calling it Clown, Lucas. I, for one, am sick of the negative portrayal of clowns in the media, and associating clowns with the mafia is a bridge too far. I love that icon, though.

Alyssa's idea is epic and multilayers the game, by the way.
almost 6 years
Mutineer:
-Can kill one person per. night, separate from the mafia meeting
-Cannot vote within the Mafia meeting
-Appears as Mafia on all reports
-Attends Mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
-Wins if alive alone or the final two, and the other remaining alive is not a mafia

(3rd party, I think this is a neat idea since it'd be someone who is directly a part of the mafia but is openly defying them, and is an enemy of both the town and mafia. Also wouldn't count towards mafia majority.

Would be fun because unlike usurper/mm, mafia can win while mutineer is alive, just that mutineer will actively go against them and wants them all dead.)
almost 6 years

PosterChild says

Ghost:
v1
v2
Poltergeist:
v1
v2


?? I guess I will be building these two roles! Ill send some tokens to you later tonight!
almost 6 years
Ghost:
v1
v2
Poltergeist:
v1
v2
almost 6 years
that was my original intention for it, apart from lynches obviously

i also think it should be able to kill roles that can't normally be killed during the night, like gramps

maybe it could also win by killing at least one killer by the end of the game, and win alone if it kills all their killers
almost 6 years

jacobkrin says

here's probably the best role icon i've done for the vengeful spirit:


good enough for me! so sometimes multiple people could have killed a player, does the spirit need to kill all his/her murderers to win?
almost 6 years
here's probably the best role icon i've done for the vengeful spirit:
almost 6 years

DarkB says

Found a bug where if I try to filter setups for a role, I don't get any input on setups that include that role, like a freeze or something


fixed! thanks for reporting!
almost 6 years
after clown, gun enthusiast, and vengeful spirit, i'll probably draw the line there for new roles (unless if ghost and poltergiest [roles that roleblock living when dead] make it in before tomorrow)

yea, i can just make it so clown doesn't attend mafia meetings?
almost 6 years
Found a bug where if I try to filter setups for a role, I don't get any input on setups that include that role, like a freeze or something
almost 6 years

admin says


SteelixMega says


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lucaskart says


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Golbolco says


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Songin says


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lucaskart says

-Jester:
•Sided with mafia.
•Sees self as Fool and appears in reports as third party.
•Doesn't participate on mafia meetings.
•Has a fool meeting that instead of doing nothing, it kills the selected player.


interesting, but only works with an actual fool in the game?

added graverobber and crank! will add resurrectionist, exorcist, and ghostbuster tomorrow (may need a better name for ghostbuster)


Would work in multi-setups or setups with fool, but you'd easily learn if you were maf or not by d2.


I'll let Golbolco decide! Lol

I like it!


Lol, I like it too. Would be very fun in Reverse Mafia/Sandbox. I don't like the name though. Maybe "Fall Guy?"


Another ideas are clown or insane mafia.


Well, I did a Clown icon:


have you watched It?


epic variable: make it so other mafias can't contact them at all, even through whispers. Otherwise they would know from pretty much Day 1 on that they are mafia, and would know to side with them.

Or do what you have and use it in setups with doctor/nurse/drunk/surg/trapper


hmm interesting. ok let's think a bit more on this before i go ahead and build it


What about mafia not knowing the Clown's indentity, outside of spy contacting the role ofc, and instead of showing Player X is part of the mafia, you show that a Clown is part of the mafia.
almost 6 years

jacobkrin says


jacobkrin says

i'm going to suggest one of my role ideas again

Vengeful Spirit
-If killed, the spirit can choose one person every night.
-If that person was their killer, they'll get attacked.
-Wins if they successfully kill their killer.
-Sided with the third party.


i think i'm getting slightly better with pixel art so i tried to make a good looking icon but i'm not sure if it worked:


Try taking inspiration from here:
https://epicmafia.com/images/roleimg.png

Maybe try making something similar looking to ghoul?
almost 6 years

admin says


MisterPresident says

I think it would also be really cool to add what I would call "passive" third party roles

A lot of games should be centered around town and mafia wins when they can end by third party roles. The two roles in particular that I am thinking of are Fool and Lyncher.

You should make it so that the games continue if the Fool is lynched or the Lynching target has. That way, more people have the opportunity to play toward their win condition.

I understand that sometimes those roles' current mechanics are vital to the gameplay of some setups, but if there was a way to toggle "ends game" versus not, then it would be more fun to be 3rd parties or play against them. They would still count toward player counts and wasting mislynches and stuff


i could also introduce it as a game mode, in which case, until the game formally ends with a mafia or town win, will keep continuing. not sure what to do with games where there are no mafia or town though


Which gamemodes have no mafia or town?
almost 6 years

shayneismyname says

Would simply "Super Gunsmith" and having the gunsmith icon holding a gun in both hands work?



Have it hold a 3rd gun too
almost 6 years

jacobkrin says

i'm going to suggest one of my role ideas again

Vengeful Spirit
-If killed, the spirit can choose one person every night.
-If that person was their killer, they'll get attacked.
-Wins if they successfully kill their killer.
-Sided with the third party.


i think i'm getting slightly better with pixel art so i tried to make a good looking icon but i'm not sure if it worked:
almost 6 years

MisterPresident says

I think it would also be really cool to add what I would call "passive" third party roles

A lot of games should be centered around town and mafia wins when they can end by third party roles. The two roles in particular that I am thinking of are Fool and Lyncher.

You should make it so that the games continue if the Fool is lynched or the Lynching target has. That way, more people have the opportunity to play toward their win condition.

I understand that sometimes those roles' current mechanics are vital to the gameplay of some setups, but if there was a way to toggle "ends game" versus not, then it would be more fun to be 3rd parties or play against them. They would still count toward player counts and wasting mislynches and stuff


i could also introduce it as a game mode, in which case, until the game formally ends with a mafia or town win, will keep continuing. not sure what to do with games where there are no mafia or town though
almost 6 years
I think it would also be really cool to add what I would call "passive" third party roles

A lot of games should be centered around town and mafia wins when they can end by third party roles. The two roles in particular that I am thinking of are Fool and Lyncher.

You should make it so that the games continue if the Fool is lynched or the Lynching target has. That way, more people have the opportunity to play toward their win condition.

I understand that sometimes those roles' current mechanics are vital to the gameplay of some setups, but if there was a way to toggle "ends game" versus not, then it would be more fun to be 3rd parties or play against them. They would still count toward player counts and wasting mislynches and stuff
almost 6 years
Check out the roles that I made on Lionei and Army
almost 6 years
Shotgunner
- Starts with a gun
- Target selected dies, but anyone who visited them at night is also killed due to the wide spread of pellets
- Sided with the village
almost 6 years

admin says

ok, just thought of another role that may be fun. something like fool but for graveyard, their goal is to be picked in graveyard to be exorcised in order to win


nope. The idea of losing to someone who isn't even alive sounds wrong.
almost 6 years

Alyssa says


LioneI says


Alyssa says

Oh hey speaking of jotto There’s been an issue where people are randomly kicked out of the game and have to rejoin, and when they return their cheat sheet is gone and having to fill it out again isn’t fun


i thought lucid fixed that


Happened to me again Monday night


yah i havent added that feature yet but i will! still need to build wordsmith too
almost 6 years

LioneI says


Alyssa says

Oh hey speaking of jotto There’s been an issue where people are randomly kicked out of the game and have to rejoin, and when they return their cheat sheet is gone and having to fill it out again isn’t fun


i thought lucid fixed that


Happened to me again Monday night
almost 6 years
Would simply "Super Gunsmith" and having the gunsmith icon holding a gun in both hands work?
almost 6 years
Wouldn't that put a lot of pressure on Exorcist and Ghosthunter if one wrong move could end the game? Or would the game not end when this dead fool get's sent to Underworld?