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JonSnow
about 6 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
50
Cat Lady
26
Vice President
22
the Seer
12
Robinhood
12
Soldier
6
Jack the Ripper
6
Whistleblower
4
Gossiper
lucaskart
almost 6 years
Like in the part that says who is part of the mafia and isn't attending, just instead of putting the name of the clown, put that there is a clown. I think it's fair for mafia to not know who he is, so that would avoid contacting.
admin
almost 6 years
vengeful spirit may be too powerful too if they can kill every single night when dead? (or no?)

also, just need to figure out how to handle the case if they are lynched, who would they be vengeful towards then?
admin
almost 6 years


epic variable: make it so other mafias can't contact them at all, even through whispers. Otherwise they would know from pretty much Day 1 on that they are mafia, and would know to side with them.


i think Clown would just infer from the silence that they are mafia? so probably should not stop whispering or contacting them
admin
almost 6 years

Alyssa says

The mutineer can kill the mafia yes, if they weren't on the list the mutineer would know who they are.

So the meeting would be like

Mafia-1 votes X
Mafia-2 votes X
Mafia-3 ends meeting(can just hide them from here too)

Mutineer meeting
You choose Y

Mafia wouldn't see the mutineer meeting, so it'd be like the current anti-mafia(mastermind, vice pres) who are in there in the meeting but are trying to conceal their identity


ok, i think i kind of get it! mafias can't just reveal themselves anyhow otherwise they would be killed

ok, once there's an icon, i'll try building it

ghost and poltergeist have been built! really pushing this graveyard concept here
Alyssa
almost 6 years
The mutineer can kill the mafia yes, if they weren't on the list the mutineer would know who they are.

So the meeting would be like

Mafia-1 votes X
Mafia-2 votes X
Mafia-3 ends meeting(can just hide them from here too)

Mutineer meeting
You choose Y

Mafia wouldn't see the mutineer meeting, so it'd be like the current anti-mafia(mastermind, vice pres) who are in there in the meeting but are trying to conceal their identity
admin
almost 6 years

Alyssa says

Mutineer:
-Can kill one person per. night, separate from the mafia meeting
-Cannot vote within the Mafia meeting
-Appears as Mafia on all reports
-Attends Mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
-Wins if alive alone or the final two, and the other remaining alive is not a mafia

(3rd party, I think this is a neat idea since it'd be someone who is directly a part of the mafia but is openly defying them, and is an enemy of both the town and mafia. Also wouldn't count towards mafia majority.

Would be fun because unlike usurper/mm, mafia can win while mutineer is alive, just that mutineer will actively go against them and wants them all dead.)


can they kill mafias as well? Also, for no voting, I think it's too easy to tease out who mutineers are, even if the meeting is anonymous?
Alyssa
almost 6 years
woo!
admin
almost 6 years
Oops, meant to quote your comment on mutineer
admin
almost 6 years

Golbolco says

Good point, but studies have shown that clowns have suffered financially from their negative portrayals.

That being said, the role is actually fine lol


ok fine, last last role lol
admin
almost 6 years
https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/oct/14/coulrophobia-why-clowns-trigger-our-fear-reflexes
admin
almost 6 years
i think phobia of clowns is actually a thing, so much of demonizing clowns may be instinctual
admin
almost 6 years

PosterChild says

Btw. shouldn't people who suicide/veg in graveyard be transferred to underworld? (only in graveyard related games though pls)

Also does lover still have 100% win when there are no graveyard roles in the setup?


ok fixed this!


lucaskart says


Golbolco says

Personally, I'm not a fan of calling it Clown, Lucas. I, for one, am sick of the negative portrayal of clowns in the media, and associating clowns with the mafia is a bridge too far. I love that icon, though.


I mean, butlers and janitors suffers from the same thing, honest jobs but that get portrayed a lot as mafiosos... also the evil librarians, every movie the librarian is kinda evil.


lol yea, much of this is cultural or perpetuated by books and media
admin
almost 6 years
added discord linking to profile!

if the vengeful spirit died from being lynched, should it then just side with the village?
jacobkrin
almost 6 years

jacobkrin says

maybe it could also win by killing at least one killer by the end of the game, and win alone if it kills all their killers


i think the vengeful spirit's win should be similar to fool's, they win alone by killing all their killers, and they win with another alignment but it isn't shown if they don't kill all their killers
Golbolco
almost 6 years
Nobody's stopping YOU from posting, "buddy."
Alyssa
almost 6 years

essa says

this is like, a lot of information to come back to especially considering i just returned to throw for my friends


https://epicmafia.com/topic/91272

I've been trying to compile the new information here if that'll help!

All the new roles are supposed to be there too but /someone/ is too busy having a life to help :v
deletedalmost 6 years
this is like, a lot of information to come back to especially considering i just returned to throw for my friends
Golbolco
almost 6 years
Good point, but studies have shown that clowns have suffered financially from their negative portrayals.

That being said, the role is actually fine lol
PosterChild
almost 6 years
Btw. shouldn't people who suicide/veg in graveyard be transferred to underworld? (only in graveyard related games though pls)

Also does lover still have 100% win when there are no graveyard roles in the setup?
lucaskart
almost 6 years

Golbolco says

Personally, I'm not a fan of calling it Clown, Lucas. I, for one, am sick of the negative portrayal of clowns in the media, and associating clowns with the mafia is a bridge too far. I love that icon, though.


I mean, butlers and janitors suffers from the same thing, honest jobs but that get portrayed a lot as mafiosos... also the evil librarians, every movie the librarian is kinda evil.
Alyssa
almost 6 years

admin says

stap.. lol


:(

no u
PosterChild
almost 6 years

admin says


PosterChild says

Ghost:
v1
v2
Poltergeist:
v1
v2


?? I guess I will be building these two roles! Ill send some tokens to you later tonight!


Thanks lol.
MisterPresident
almost 6 years

Golbolco says

I'm 100% serious. Unless we're talking about Sad Clowns, of course, I find them creepy and would associate them with the mafia.


Lmfao
admin
almost 6 years

Alyssa says

Mutineer:
-Can kill one person per. night, separate from the mafia meeting
-Cannot vote within the Mafia meeting
-Appears as Mafia on all reports
-Attends Mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
-Wins if alive alone or the final two, and the other remaining alive is not a mafia

(3rd party, I think this is a neat idea since it'd be someone who is directly a part of the mafia but is openly defying them, and is an enemy of both the town and mafia. Also wouldn't count towards mafia majority.

Would be fun because unlike usurper/mm, mafia can win while mutineer is alive, just that mutineer will actively go against them and wants them all dead.)


stap.. lol
Golbolco
almost 6 years
I'm 100% serious. Unless we're talking about Sad Clowns, of course, I find them creepy and would associate them with the mafia.