Epicmafia

New Roles

over 5 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

If the president dies, takes their place
All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

Chooses one person every night.
Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
Night meeting goes accordingly
Sided with the village

PowerMafia

Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
Night meeting goes accordingly
Sided with the mafia

deletedover 5 years

But then again i only suggested this role to put more pressure on hammering setups as maf cant do much except either
1) cc pr
Or 2) not act scummmy
I dont know, whenever i turn pr in voltron doesnt like it scumhunting comes easy to me (only in that one though). I just wanted somethin to help balance maf :p

deletedover 5 years

Ok Whistleblower vote should only work when another mafia partner is alive or when town outnumbers mafia by 2. So like in a solo 5 way, or 2 maf 7 town. Basically not allowing mafia to force a nl in lylo or mylo

Golbolco

over 5 years

admin says

i'm open to creating more than 2 roles. they just have to be well polished, and i need icons as well!

I have a few icons that will already work for these, just gotta refurbish them.

admin

over 5 years

i'm open to creating more than 2 roles. they just have to be well polished, and i need icons as well!

schutzekatze

over 5 years

dr3amer says

I am here for three years and you decide to put a cat related roll when I want to leave? Not cool!!!!!!! You can't make it until I like get unbanned in January!

cat ladies are good people not mafia!
no cat killing is tolerated

I think that your time is better spent fixing problems with this site, instead of making new roles!!!! like there was a bug where you can't even activate your accounts...

Also please refer to my thread on lobby camping

l m a o

deletedover 5 years

I am here for three years and you decide to put a cat related roll when I want to leave? Not cool!!!!!!! You can't make it until I like get unbanned in January!

cat ladies are good people not mafia!
no cat killing is tolerated

I think that your time is better spent fixing problems with this site, instead of making new roles!!!! like there was a bug where you can't even activate your accounts...

Also please refer to my thread on lobby camping

Hibiki

over 5 years

you leave the cat to mind its own business (cats like this) then it reports to the cat lady
you invite the cat in and spend the whole night petting the cat (cats like this) but you don't visit anyone at night

schutzekatze

over 5 years

Hibiki says

change cat lady because i dont want to kill cats

Yeah, agreed. Change it to something like keep and shoo the cat pls.

Alyssa

over 5 years

I feel the visiting mafia part is important too since it makes him a threat to the mafia immediately, and depending what roles are in the game it can lead to some interesting plays. This part isn’t as necessary as the 3rd party part, but I feel this will make the role more complete rather than passive.

Alyssa

over 5 years

If VP is town sided the president essentially just gets two lives. It just makes him overpowered.

The VP cannot win on its own so it *has* to get the president dead, without letting the mafia find out who he is or else they’ll kill him too.

Elfen

over 5 years

Imagine a setup with 9 or 10 people including Detective (the only town that can find the seer) and a Seer that can pick their role if they die. It could be a masterpiece.

Hibiki

over 5 years

yeah if seer has to do that they should just get to pick from the roles in the setup

Elfen

over 5 years

The seer appearing a role they choose in case they die makes it an AWESOME idea. A 10-player game, slightly townsided in play, but with a seer, and not with many other pr's (at most 2 prs) would be fantastic.

Shwartz99

over 5 years

holy hell hibiki is back

Hibiki

over 5 years

jack the ripper sucks
change cat lady because i dont want to kill cats
robinhood is like, super niche and wont be played
VP is cool but make him townsided and remove the mafia thing
instead of gossiper just make invisible man available in main lobby
if the seer dies the game should revert to a normal mafia game
whistleblower sucks (i dont think you should be allowed to nullify votes)
soldier is /shrug
PM and PT are cool but it should be permanent after n1

Hibiki

over 5 years

mandevian says

These two roles will be viable for comp and will revolutionise the game.

https://epicmafia.com/role/3702

https://epicmafia.com/role/3703

So each night it will be a battle of wits. Each role has a counter from the other side. So it just depends on what you pick. For example if you think the mafia will pick enforcer then you ca pick orc and reveal. It can be combined with other roles in the game. Each night you get to pick any role. The list can be determined when the role is created. Last time a thread was made and we proposed this, lucid said he wasnt interested in building roles. But he would some day.

dudes had these in the back since like 2013

Kawaii

over 5 years

VP shouldnt attend mafia meetings imo
being third party is a bit lame too

Songin

over 5 years

>None of my roles got chosen

So sad.

Edit:
I'm shilling my ideas:
https://epicmafia.com/topic/90781?page=1&post_highlight=3121444

https://epicmafia.com/topic/90781?page=1&post_highlight=3121457

Volta

over 5 years

i like that role that will never be used except in sandbox setups

JonSnow

over 5 years

True, but

JonSnow says

Don't forget that we could improve those ideas, they're not final, so any suggestion is great.

I meant i refined/ reworked the idea in my mind.

Golbolco

over 5 years

One big change that should be made: Robin Hood should be able to steal from the Mafia. I think I made that oversight while screening, my bad.

Also, its name should be two words.

PatrykSzczescie

over 5 years

I think PT and PM would require a new game mode.

sl0nderman

over 5 years

the description says "each night"

JonSnow

over 5 years

sl0nderman says

power town / mafia would be better if they were nilla and then could choose to become a role ONCE and then they stayed that role the rest of the game. this allows the flexibly as intended but without the honestly stupid idea that every night people are throwing around whatever night action they want every single night. just imagine how chaotic that would become.

this whole idea also risks powercreeping the mimic and the apprentice.

I interpreted it as only being able to choose one role per game so if you're town you'd start or show up as blue and if you're mafia you look like nilla before you choose your power role.

sl0nderman

over 5 years

when talkin about the ripper dunno if it should take things like gifted guns and knives into account, maybe only the roles that have innate killing capability. there are plenty of them already.