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Corporal Punishment?

almost 7 years

Do you believe that physically disciplining a child is acceptable and an efficient way to teach them between right and wrong?

I would think fear can be a very effective and persuasive tool, but I don't think it should be applied to a parent and child dynamic. I just don't like the idea of hitting kids.

what does your morals say
21
No, it's not effective
14
Yes, but only sometimes
5
I don't know/I'm in between
2
Yes, absolutely
0
No, only to juveniles
almost 7 years

Zhuorb says

the issue is not the second bit of your stupid miscontrual; Ivana clearly meant she'd hit her boy in order to stop him from randomly walking onto traffic and have something worse happen.

if you tell a child "the stove is hot", nine out of ten children will make sure they touch it just out of childlike curiousity. Hitting them simplifies the entire ordeal to "don't touch", because now they've seen consequences before doing it.


spanking children="don't touch"
lol wtf
almost 7 years
idk man i didn't get spanked and i never got run over by a bus or poisoned by a can of meths
almost 7 years

blacksnakemoan says

damn lmao you're all little brats if an adult telling you not to do something and then explaining why it was dangerous wasn't a good enough reason not to do it hahahah


no, sometimes children can not process why the reason is important. The thought process may make complete sense and the reasoning would be good enough to put forward to any other adult, but to a child, going "do not drink this bottle of liquid, you might die" is not going to cut it. You'll have to explain the entire concept of death- why, how, what happens after etc. for the child to be able to understand it.
A little physical discipline just simplifies it to a language the child understands, and will later come to know more about.
almost 7 years
damn lmao you're all little brats if an adult telling you not to do something and then explaining why it was dangerous wasn't a good enough reason not to do it hahahah
almost 7 years
evidently, as I made clear my reservations about her approach. but that doesn’t magically put me in a position of experience, lol
almost 7 years
my dad once forcefully held my head under the water in a toilet bowl because i accidentally flooded the bathroom with it

i haven't seen my dad in 8 years
almost 7 years
Being a parent doesn't give you the magical ability of not being wrong, debaser.
almost 7 years
I think it’s a little self righteous to be condescendingly correcting mothers on how they should be raising their kids, particularly from us children-less ppl. regardless of my personal stance, it isn’t really right to talk down to Ivana when many of us don’t even come from a place of parenting experience

nevertheless, I won’t hit my kids because a) I was personally disciplined with different methods, and b) many of those around me who were beaten as children either grew up with a lack of self-empowerment, an inferiority complex, or became resentful children. like I said, there are endlessly more effective styles of parenting and disciplining that are supported by plenty of credible psychological testing. that said, i am not a parent, and refuse to encroach on any actual parents on here

good thread, btw
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i don't agree w spanking and i don't plan on using it on my future kids (hell maybe that'll change when i have kids who knows) but it definitely doesn't equate to child abuse and anyone saying it does is pretty ridiculous and clearly doesn't know what actual abuse is
almost 7 years
But anyway, everyone is entitled to their own form of parenting. One is absolutely allowed to do what one seems fit.
There is a very clear difference between using the stick as a representative of consequences and direct child abuse.
almost 7 years
the issue is not the second bit of your stupid miscontrual; Ivana clearly meant she'd hit her boy in order to stop him from randomly walking onto traffic and have something worse happen.

if you tell a child "the stove is hot", nine out of ten children will make sure they touch it just out of childlike curiousity. Hitting them simplifies the entire ordeal to "don't touch", because now they've seen consequences before doing it.
almost 7 years

Ally says


BeepBeepLettuce says


sea says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


No. Me spanking my child let's my child know to never ever run into the street again (because let's face it we are not all perfect and cannot watch our children every waking second. As they get older, they grow independence). Sometimes they don't hear your words.


That wasn't what you said at all lol


it literally is though

"I'd rather me spank my child on the butt then him run into the street again and get by a car and die. "

she used the wrong form of "than" but she's literally saying she would rather spank her child than have her child run out into the street


someone take this post and add a picture of Syndrome with the captions "You got me monologuing"

Fuken clarify holy shttttttttt
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BeepBeepLettuce says


sea says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


No. Me spanking my child let's my child know to never ever run into the street again (because let's face it we are not all perfect and cannot watch our children every waking second. As they get older, they grow independence). Sometimes they don't hear your words.


That wasn't what you said at all lol


it literally is though

"I'd rather me spank my child on the butt then him run into the street again and get by a car and die. "

she used the wrong form of "than" but she's literally saying she would rather spank her child than have her child run out into the street
almost 7 years

BeepBeepLettuce says


Zhuorb says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


congratulations, you're a documented idiot



Zhuorb says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being HUMAN, but is this a mainstream mindset?


congratulations, you're a documented idiot


damn autocorrect


I am a fuken rabbit. humans are the intelligent but ignorant idiots who prefer to defy nature and fk the harmony and fk the peace and have all they want for themselves only to evolve into petty, selfish, lazy egomaniacs who assume that everything they want is automatically theirs
almost 7 years

Zhuorb says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


congratulations, you're a documented idiot



Zhuorb says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being HUMAN, but is this a mainstream mindset?


congratulations, you're a documented idiot


damn autocorrect
almost 7 years
No wonder we're raising an entire generation of snowflakes lol
the few times I've been hit as a child I can say I 100% deserved it and no amount of negative reinforcement would've been as effective at getting me to behave
almost 7 years
there's a very relevant Hindi aphorism that roughly translates to "the rod is the logic of fools"
almost 7 years

BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


congratulations, you're a documented idiot
almost 7 years
Don't spank your kids as punishment, only as a warning for dangerous things.

For example, lightly slapping the hand of a toddler when they try to touch the stove or try to run into the street. Things like that.

Not as a punishment for lying, screaming, being a pain in the a$s kid, stealing, etc.
almost 7 years
my mom said she'd never spank me and then i was on my back kicking and screaming at the top of my lungs in the checkout aisle at the grocery store

she had a change of heart
almost 7 years
why even would you hit your kid for running in the street?? is it really that hard to use words ??? if it's really that difficult to make a mental investment to understand your child then you really shouldn't have kids
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BeepBeepLettuce says


sea says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


No. Me spanking my child let's my child know to never ever run into the street again (because let's face it we are not all perfect and cannot watch our children every waking second. As they get older, they grow independence). Sometimes they don't hear your words.


That wasn't what you said at all lol


Good thing you know now
almost 7 years

sea says


BeepBeepLettuce says


ivana says

Umm wtf what? It's a scenario. Use your brain.


rather than say sorry for hitting them (or not hitting them at all), you would rather they run into the street and get run over and die?

sorry for not being normal, but is this a mainstream mindset?


No. Me spanking my child let's my child know to never ever run into the street again (because let's face it we are not all perfect and cannot watch our children every waking second. As they get older, they grow independence). Sometimes they don't hear your words.


That wasn't what you said at all lol
deletedalmost 7 years
The only two times I ever spanked my son, he received hugs and love from me afterwards and I explained why I had to spank him. Surprisingly, he understood, apologized, and I haven't had an issue since. Slight fear is ok. Don't confuse discipline with child abuse.
almost 7 years
Also, you guys are arguing with an actual parent in Ivana. Armchair parents, especially college kids, have no sense of reality when it comes to many things, this included. Wisdom comes with age is said for a reason.