Epicmafia

almost 7 years

memes get mild laughter at best after a certain point but references seem to have an element of eternal appeal. but again, that's just a tiny bit of it and it's too specific. it falls flat with the res.t

Kerry

almost 7 years

arcbell r u going to help me or not >:(

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Sincerely says

people keep trying to explain it and it would be so great if we could truly grasp where it came from or what it was that made people laugh, since it seems so multifaceted and weird and there are so many different ways people laugh and different people laugh over different things, and generalizations made about any specific aspect or subgroup of jokes seem to inevitably fall flat in other areas

there certainly appear to be some ways to get better at it when used in combination with practice. easier said than done though >_>

Refining humor seems to be one of those things that lends itself to naive approaches. Simply repeating memes and putting them in the current context seems to be a pretty solid way to get people laughing, but it doesn't help you at all in building a generalization of how humor works.

Kerry

almost 7 years

nooooooooooooOOO

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Sincerely

almost 7 years

that's also the best way to give people gifts if they're my age because most of them are the same. Those feckless losers

Sincerely

almost 7 years

my favorite thing to do with money is just spend it all on video games that i end up deserting halfway through 75% of the time

Sincerely

almost 7 years

sry kerry

Sincerely

almost 7 years

well, depends on the context. Definitely gotta learn to change it for any writing i ever do in a formal context, or when it's more important to be persuasive.

Kerry

almost 7 years

can we go back to giving quick monies tips

Sincerely

almost 7 years

idk there's a lot to be curious about at different times wrt where things come from and there aren't rly concrete answers, necessarily, and there are so many different angles to approach anything from i end up feeling pretty lost when discussing things like this, personally. But when it comes to identifying with and being influenced by roles, there exist more specific factors than just feminine vs. masculine, and

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Sincerely says

unfortunately impossible to truly translate one's own thoughts into words or expect others to have the same takeaway as you do, and definitely ideal to organize information so it's easier understood, or just be succinct and accept the loss of information

but it's so difficult ;____;

I'm not even sure it's a good idea for you to aim to change that lol. Communicating in a highly specific way probably keeps you thinking in a highly specific way

Sincerely

almost 7 years

Arcbell says

Sincerely says

Like I said, that's a lot harder to articulate (and not super important). which part would you like an example of?

Other roles in society to which it would apply might be a good enough keystone to help me understand that para

well, specific archetypes, like "nerd" vs "jock", would be a simpler part of what i was (probably?) thinking of. Once we decide we're one or the other, we end up shaping other parts of ourselves around it. Like, if you think of yourself as a nerd, you're less likely to then try to be -strong- or -good with girls-. When we decide things about ourselves, we start to shape our images based on them. Oh, and being funny, for example. Sense of humor evolution, prolly, too.

Sincerely

almost 7 years

people keep trying to explain it and it would be so great if we could truly grasp where it came from or what it was that made people laugh, since it seems so multifaceted and weird and there are so many different ways people laugh and different people laugh over different things, and generalizations made about any specific aspect or subgroup of jokes seem to inevitably fall flat in other areas

there certainly appear to be some ways to get better at it when used in combination with practice. easier said than done though >_>

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Sincerely says

Like I said, that's a lot harder to articulate (and not super important). which part would you like an example of?

Other roles in society to which it would apply might be a good enough keystone to help me understand that para

Sincerely

almost 7 years

Arcbell says

Humor has always mystified me.

ikr

Sincerely

almost 7 years

Arcbell says

Sincerely says

really to say anything coherent i need to step back and reorganize my thoughhts but idc fu it's not like anyone has to or wants to read all this lol

It all makes perfect sense it's just like you're optimizing against information loss really hard when you're compressing your ideas into words, so naturally it takes more energy to understand. it's interesting to see how your mind works.

unfortunately impossible to truly translate one's own thoughts into words or expect others to have the same takeaway as you do, and definitely ideal to organize information so it's easier understood, or just be succinct and accept the loss of information

but it's so difficult ;____;

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Humor has always mystified me.

The

almost 7 years

Yvette says

The says

I think this gives some good insight: https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringStudents/comments/7axj1l/experiences_of_women_studying_engineering/

There seems to be a big emphasis on girls not liking the social aspect spawned by the types of people already in engineering, i.e. a bunch of socially awkward/autistic guys feeling romantic desperation from the lack of like-minded females. Guys seem to be more willing to risk their future social success (with females) to pursue their technical interests, whereas girls tend to be more thoughtful about how their choice of major will affect their life socially (avoiding awkward and weird guys that make them uncomfortable). This kind of ties back to the distinction Arcbell was making about how girls and guys focus on social/societal and physical issues in different ways.

shouldn't they feel safer with the awkward and weird guys in stem over the football players / jocks / frat boys

I mean judging by that Reddit post, it doesn't seem like they do.

Also I don't think it's really accurate to ignore the vast amount of guys that are not jocks, frat boys, or nerdy, which make up the majority of the male population in non-STEM majors.

Sincerely

almost 7 years

Arcbell says

Sincerely says

really can't explain this but i think there are a lot of possible factors contributing. and obviously i am too biased about the gender thing to say, but some of what i'm rambling about here seems to apply to other roles in society, too, and it's fun to think about even if it's useless. That is, the how-it-works behind people, not the people themselves, is interesting. I'd associate that with the same mental process to a lot of other things. Actually, this is an example of "what we care about" being somewhat arbitrary, maybe.

Hm not sure I know what you mean here. Can you give me an example?

Like I said, that's a lot harder to articulate (and not super important). which part would you like an example of?

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The says

I think this gives some good insight: https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringStudents/comments/7axj1l/experiences_of_women_studying_engineering/

There seems to be a big emphasis on girls not liking the social aspect spawned by the types of people already in engineering, i.e. a bunch of socially awkward/autistic guys feeling romantic desperation from the lack of like-minded females. Guys seem to be more willing to risk their future social success (with females) to pursue their technical interests, whereas girls tend to be more thoughtful about how their choice of major will affect their life socially (avoiding awkward and weird guys that make them uncomfortable). This kind of ties back to the distinction Arcbell was making about how girls and guys focus on social/societal and physical issues in different ways.

shouldn't they feel safer with the awkward and weird guys in stem over the football players / jocks / frat boys

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Sincerely says

really to say anything coherent i need to step back and reorganize my thoughhts but idc fu it's not like anyone has to or wants to read all this lol

It all makes perfect sense it's just like you're optimizing against information loss really hard when you're compressing your ideas into words, so naturally it takes more energy to understand. it's interesting to see how your mind works.

Sincerely

almost 7 years

oh by the way humor is really obviously culturally influenced and that isn't really a question, and presentation is a huuuuuuge part of whether something comes off as funny or not. That's even more obvious than the first thing. In fact, I'd wager presentation is more important than the actual jokes, half the time. And i mean, look how we treat female public speakers lol

the reason Hillary gave off such a bad impression definitely had to do with more than just being female, but the fact that much of what was said about her really was riding on that impression, and the fact that some of that seemed to have to do with her serious/professional disposition

more distinct is the treatment Australia gave to PM Julia Gillard, which was very unabashedly sexist -- like, completely undisguised, overt "she doesn't have family values and is intentionally barren" and "ditch the witch"-type insults repeated all over the place by public speakers.

of the girls i've seen speaking publicly, they seem to have a tendency towards being less confident and assertive, but jeeze, i wonder why!

idunno it's all subjective and i'm as sexist as anyone, despite myself.

that kind of digressed from the funny thing but what i mean to say is that's one of those ambiguous things (and i'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with intelligence or wit)

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Sincerely says

really can't explain this but i think there are a lot of possible factors contributing. and obviously i am too biased about the gender thing to say, but some of what i'm rambling about here seems to apply to other roles in society, too, and it's fun to think about even if it's useless. That is, the how-it-works behind people, not the people themselves, is interesting. I'd associate that with the same mental process to a lot of other things. Actually, this is an example of "what we care about" being somewhat arbitrary, maybe.

Hm not sure I know what you mean here. Can you give me an example?

Arcbell

almost 7 years

Sincerely says

i think cultural and biological differences are often inextricable from each other

but i think there is definitely a big cultural part of girls not liking math and guys going into CS/tech, regardless of whether there are genetic tendencies complicit in spawning that culture. i mean, there were far more pronounced differences here in the past, when culture changed more than genetics; there continue to be gradually less strict boundaries. and i mean a lot of it just takes more confidence than intelligence lmao

Yeah well put. Personally I'm very suspect of the common perception that the brain you're born with is going to be the biggest factor in the quality of the intelligence you develop, much less the gender. Everyone builds the architecture of their own mind as they go through life, and that architecture is what really determines what types of mental processes you can run efficiently. Confidence is surely very important, as are your values, they impact how your brain trains itself.

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people tend towards liking and continuing what they expect to be good at and what they are valued for. that definitely contributes to it. I often wonder how much of our interests are just shaped over time by what we happen to experience. of course there's far more to it to that and there are genetic components but like, has your enjoyment of a class ever been influenced by your respect for the teacher? of course it has. and don't you think sometimes your personality is shaped by the role models and how you want your self image to be?

It's fun to isolate some aspect of your personality or intelligence, and go back and think about what inputs trained it (personal values, who you want to be, etc) then look at those inputs... and ask yourself what trained those

Kerry

almost 7 years

whats an easy way to earn quick money online?

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