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a dark secret about EM

over 7 years

the purpose of EM is to create as many alts as possible. now it sounds wacky but listen to me:

  • play with X amount of redhearts for free/very cheap
  • get around r*tard bans, work on the coveted pie chart, etc
  • more goes at the goldheart = more likely you win (someone with 10 alts wins the round almost by sheer odds, vs honest working class ppl with 0 alts)
  • ppl like to make RP accounts or troll accounts or etc

these may be incentives that players see for making many fake/duplicate accounts, AKA "alts". but why does the design of EM as a program/community really encourage users to login to more than once account daily?

  • more active user accounts = more $$$ for lazyboy Lucid

I know that many top players in the "Fame" tab have more then 3 accounts, almost by a rule. I suspect that several mods, and possibly Lucid himself, actively play with multiple accounts daily.

B/c this site's funky disorganization encourages people to multi-account, Lucid turns a bug into a feature and gets rich doing nothing.

Yuck... capitalism...!

I am...
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kumi says

actually if the model works i don't think anyone would give a damn where it's from.


The "Epicmafia business model" that has so far made him the least popular admin in nearly a decade in like 5 days definitely isn't going to work though yo. That's laughable.


I hope that you market products better than you market yourself, Lailai.
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obergruppenführer lono
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kumi says

actually if the model works i don't think anyone would give a damn where it's from.


start stratifying the mod hierarchy like the third reich, no one will care
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actually if the model works i don't think anyone would give a damn where it's from.
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lailai says


Recidivism says

Thinking admining epicmafia has any translation whatsoever to the business world is so completely ridiculous it makes me feel genuine contempt for you rather than a desire to screw with you out of boredom.


Putting 'product management' and 'business' in the same sentence is the easiest litmus test revealing to everyone that you know absolutely nothing about what you're trying to talk about :)


Well it's literally the business world though so that's another stupid post by you.

This is the closest thing to friendly advice you will ever get from me:

If you're using this adminship to try to develop real world skills with which to make cash, , that is contemptible and stupid.

Let me even frame it for you outside of the context of epicmafia:

Let us say that you become the leader of a team with a big company and you're trying to market and develop a new product.

You have at this point succeeded immensely and hold the respect of everyone under your employ.

Reciprocally, you have the best team, all educated in a field closely related to product management.

Do you think that your team, or indeed superiors, would appreciate that you are bringing a business model you developed as the most unpopular admin of an internet party game of all time?

You should treat a professional environment professionally, which this website is not.

It's disrespectful to your employees, it's disrespectful to your employers, and it's disrespectful to yourself.

"You do you" but if you bring epicmafia ideas into a professional business you're ridiculous. If they hired you at 18 years old in product management, they are taking you seriously. If you don't reciprocate that respect and instead try to run their department like a dying internet party game, I hold you in contempt, and your employers will too.
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this admin is a bully!
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Recidivism says

Thinking admining epicmafia has any translation whatsoever to the business world is so completely ridiculous it makes me feel genuine contempt for you rather than a desire to screw with you out of boredom.


Putting 'product management' and 'business' in the same sentence is the easiest litmus test revealing to everyone that you know absolutely nothing about what you're trying to talk about :)
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lailai says


Recidivism says

This is just patently false.

I don't work in product management but I work pretty close to it and nothing from usurping The Iron Throne of epicmafia transfers over to business like, even a little bit.

I want to insult you here, but mostly I'm just shocked that you're so naive that this is something you seem to actually believe.


I think your preconceived biases are in effect resulting in a completely absurd and strawman interpretation of my post, but you do you!


Thinking admining epicmafia has any translation whatsoever to the business world is so completely ridiculous it makes me feel genuine contempt for you rather than a desire to screw with you out of boredom.

It's just stupid. If you were a more likable person I'd actually sit down with you and try to explain why product management and marketing aren't at all analogous to this, but to be honest with you, I really want to see you take your epicmafia admin skills into your job now. You deserve it.
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Bebop says


lailai says

admin-ing EM has various analogies with product management (balancing stakeholder interests, articulate communication, team co-ordination and alignment).





so crazy man. Should probably just step down
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Bebop says


error says


Recidivism says

Admining EM can go on your resume?


that's not even the crazy part; get this: it can even get you a cashier position at mcdonalds


what can i get for a mod position


probably a sexual harassment charge if it wasn't already a prerequisite
over 7 years

error says


Recidivism says

Admining EM can go on your resume?


that's not even the crazy part; get this: it can even get you a cashier position at mcdonalds


what can i get for a mod position
over 7 years

Recidivism says

This is just patently false.

I don't work in product management but I work pretty close to it and nothing from usurping The Iron Throne of epicmafia transfers over to business like, even a little bit.

I want to insult you here, but mostly I'm just shocked that you're so naive that this is something you seem to actually believe.


I think your preconceived biases are in effect resulting in a completely absurd and strawman interpretation of my post, but you do you!

To clarify, I've never suggested that PM == admining EM. Rather, there is an intersection of skills between PM and admining EM, especially if you actually treat epicmafia as a (gasp) product.
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Recidivism says

Admining EM can go on your resume?


that's not even the crazy part; get this: it can even get you a cashier position at mcdonalds
over 7 years

Recidivism says

Admining EM can go on your resume? Dang, should have taken him more seriously when I was fifteen years old. I could have developed skills like balancing stakeholder interests with articulate communication


Since when did I say I'd ever put EM on my resume? It's about learning, myself.
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Tell me Lailai, as far as the articulate communications skills you are developing go, do you think your team will prefer "lel" or "XD" in their memos?
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Admining EM can go on your resume? Dang, should have taken him more seriously when I was fifteen years old. I could have developed skills like balancing stakeholder interests with articulate communication
over 7 years

lailai says

admin-ing EM has various analogies with product management (balancing stakeholder interests, articulate communication, team co-ordination and alignment).


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Also don't imply that you are articulate, you're the opposite.
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admin-ing EM has various analogies with product management (balancing stakeholder interests, articulate communication, team co-ordination and alignment).

This is the wrongest thing to ever be typed on this website, and I said that my ex-girlfriend loved me.
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admin-ing EM has various analogies with product management (balancing stakeholder interests, articulate communication, team co-ordination and alignment).

Jesus H Christ
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lailai says




I started a new job as a product manager, which I'm doing as a stepping stone to building my own startup, and admin-ing EM has various analogies with product management (balancing stakeholder interests, articulate communication, team co-ordination and alignment). I've definitely learned things even in just a week.


Thank you for your thoughts and advice though :)


This is just patently false.

I don't work in product management but I work pretty close to it and nothing from usurping The Iron Throne of epicmafia transfers over to business like, even a little bit.

I want to insult you here, but mostly I'm just shocked that you're so naive that this is something you seem to actually believe.
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i dont think xxerox has an unironic bone in his body
over 7 years
Lfmaoo
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lailai says

I have a life


I'm pretty certain that if this is true you don't solicit epicmafia catfish accounts.

I know what lonely looks like!
over 7 years
If someone does a mistake, you give them a second chance ^^ if someone does Hundreds of mistakes for the past 8 years, you give him hundreds of chances :D

You even re-employ him once he was fired before for misconduct :P