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If you think antifa is a good thing

over 7 years

You're cancer.

Even if you want to go with the uptick of fascism and white nationalism. Attacking them doesn't help your cause. All it does is give them more ammunition to say, "look how crazy the left has become".

One of the funny things is you guys fail to do is understand correlation vs causation. "After Trump won the white house, hate crimes raised."

This could also do with the fact with the high increase of terrorism in western countries in the last few years. Saying that its the west's fault for not being inclusive enough and that we should all just come together. Then terrorism will stop; Is extremely naive and counter intuitive.

I'm not saying that hate crimes of any sort should ever happen, they shouldn't, nor should certain people be barred from entering. But the liberal apology tour for other groups and just blaming the west and white people, is part of the cause for the rise of "white nationalism".

For the liberals having such a high college graduate segment, it's really sad how naive their world view is.

over 7 years
im talking about rojava ffs, R-O-J-A-V-A, noun, kurdish, meaning west, de facto adminstrative region of northern syria, being bombed by assad and turkey, majority kurdish, with a assyrian, yazidi and arab minorities.
kurds = muslims
over 7 years

projectmatt says

tbh regardless of whether or not you think communism is possible, i find it so odd that people willingly defend capitalism, given that the situation it has caused is awful and has led to an absurd amount of inequality. it's so depressing to have the mindset that mass inequality and class warfare is "just the way things are".


I don't think 100% capitalism is right, that just creates where businesses control everything. There has to be some checks.


somethingwhatever says

yes rojava is non existent as r the zapatistas, lmao

what about the first french republic, they went capitalist, reign of terror and fell into dicatorship, that proves capitalism cant work, cause it fell, so did the weimar republic, IT CANT WORK lmao

the idea that even if it failed everytime it cant work its so flawed, why arent we in feudalism if the republican expirement fell in the first try?


But capitalism is currently working in all the western countries. There has never been a time where communism worked properly despite being tried over centuries.
over 7 years
christ do u actually think that the assad regime cares about women rights lmao
over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

let me think of the most feminist region in the world, what about a region where there is a regular committe to decide laws with all members of the community, and another where only women can join and the all women commite can veto all decisions by the regular commitee, that seems pretty feminist, hmm what religion r they, oh thats right f*cking muslims in syria


imagine being so uninformed that you become convinced that said religion is an existential threat and shouldnt exist in the united states, haha.
over 7 years
jesus u think assad has this?
over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

let me think of the most feminist region in the world, what about a region where there is a regular committe to decide laws with all members of the community, and another where only women can join and the all women commite can veto all decisions by the regular commitee, that seems pretty feminist, hmm what religion r they, oh thats right f*cking muslims in syria


Syria is secular
over 7 years
let me think of the most feminist region in the world, what about a region where there is a regular committe to decide laws with all members of the community, and another where only women can join and the all women commite can veto all decisions by the regular commitee, that seems pretty feminist, hmm what religion r they, oh thats right f*cking muslims in syria
over 7 years

GentIeman says

I've seen it a lot where they debate and when the veil and having to cover or get stoned is brought up they say it's not in the Quran. A lot of their social laws is based off the hadith.


that's true, a lot of the social law comes from that. although of course, you can't put specific laws in a vacuum - a lot of muslims interpret social laws about women the same way that christians tend to interpret laws about women in the OT - they don't apply anymore, or they were the "relic of the times".
over 7 years

projectmatt says


GentIeman says


projectmatt says


GentIeman says


This is just projecting and then factually wrong. The greater majority of young Isis fighters are well educated compared to their fellow countrymen. You can talk about how they have little knowledge of Islamic law but them being uneducated is a lie.


btw, you didn't answer my question - have you read the quran or the sunnah? it's fine if you didn't, but it bothers me when people act like an authority on islam because they read "10 VERSES THAT PROVE ISLAM IS EVIL" on some clickbait site, which tends to happen quite often.

also: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-documents-leak-recruits-islam-sharia-religion-faith-syria-iraq-a7193086.html

in general, people who are recruited by isis have a poor understanding of islam/the holy text. ill have to look for a source for the illiterate thing.


I never said it was evil, I said it can be interpreted into a militant ideology. I have glanced through it.

Also a lot of their cultural stuff regarding women isn't even in the Quran it's in the Judith. Which they like to not talk about when they're debating in western countries.


okay, i agree that it can be interperted badly, but i would also say that the majority of people i've seen who try to pick a fight against islam have very little idea what they are talking about, and don't understand the historical context behind any verse they quote.

what's your point about the Hadith, btw?


I've seen it a lot where they debate and when the veil and having to cover or get stoned is brought up they say it's not in the Quran. A lot of their social laws is based off the hadith.
over 7 years
oh how can ppl elect their own officials, u need god to lead u through ur king, democacy cant work these peasants r just gonna always elect themselves a dicatator they r too dumb, oh u will never be able to defeat the nobility they have god on their side
over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

its not only depressing, it's factually wrong, and honestly a rehashing of waht ppl said about feudalism


it's almost like we've been conditioned to be complacent....nah, it was the fkin sjw's that caused all this
over 7 years
its not only depressing, it's factually wrong, and honestly a rehashing of waht ppl said about feudalism
over 7 years
who wants to play fp? come join
over 7 years
tbh regardless of whether or not you think communism is possible, i find it so odd that people willingly defend capitalism, given that the situation it has caused is awful and has led to an absurd amount of inequality. it's so depressing to have the mindset that mass inequality and class warfare is "just the way things are".
over 7 years

GentIeman says


projectmatt says


GentIeman says


This is just projecting and then factually wrong. The greater majority of young Isis fighters are well educated compared to their fellow countrymen. You can talk about how they have little knowledge of Islamic law but them being uneducated is a lie.


btw, you didn't answer my question - have you read the quran or the sunnah? it's fine if you didn't, but it bothers me when people act like an authority on islam because they read "10 VERSES THAT PROVE ISLAM IS EVIL" on some clickbait site, which tends to happen quite often.

also: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-documents-leak-recruits-islam-sharia-religion-faith-syria-iraq-a7193086.html

in general, people who are recruited by isis have a poor understanding of islam/the holy text. ill have to look for a source for the illiterate thing.


I never said it was evil, I said it can be interpreted into a militant ideology. I have glanced through it.

Also a lot of their cultural stuff regarding women isn't even in the Quran it's in the Judith. Which they like to not talk about when they're debating in western countries.


okay, i agree that it can be interperted badly, but i would also say that the majority of people i've seen who try to pick a fight against islam have very little idea what they are talking about, and don't understand the historical context behind any verse they quote.

what's your point about the Hadith, btw?
over 7 years
yes rojava is non existent as r the zapatistas, lmao

what about the first french republic, they went capitalist, reign of terror and fell into dicatorship, that proves capitalism cant work, cause it fell, so did the weimar republic, IT CANT WORK lmao

the idea that even if it failed everytime it cant work its so flawed, why arent we in feudalism if the republican expirement fell in the first try?
over 7 years
Hadith*
over 7 years

projectmatt says


GentIeman says


This is just projecting and then factually wrong. The greater majority of young Isis fighters are well educated compared to their fellow countrymen. You can talk about how they have little knowledge of Islamic law but them being uneducated is a lie.


btw, you didn't answer my question - have you read the quran or the sunnah? it's fine if you didn't, but it bothers me when people act like an authority on islam because they read "10 VERSES THAT PROVE ISLAM IS EVIL" on some clickbait site, which tends to happen quite often.

also: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-documents-leak-recruits-islam-sharia-religion-faith-syria-iraq-a7193086.html

in general, people who are recruited by isis have a poor understanding of islam/the holy text. ill have to look for a source for the illiterate thing.


I never said it was evil, I said it can be interpreted into a militant ideology. I have glanced through it.

Also a lot of their cultural stuff regarding women isn't even in the Quran it's in the Judith. Which they like to not talk about when they're debating in western countries.
over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

also not at all strawman when i say the free territory of ukraine and u just point to modern day ukraine or how i specificly said zapatista and u point to whole mexico


You said

somethingwhatever says

yes rojava r primitives, so r mexican today, ucranians too sure, not a strawman am i rite


Then the other societies you listed don't exist anymore. Because they were over thrown by something more stable. Classes and certain social rules make countries stronger and give them the ability to grow.

Point to a large country where no classes or state can survive without going hungry or being over thrown. Point to more evidence that capitalism is less stable. You can do neither of these
over 7 years

GentIeman says


This is just projecting and then factually wrong. The greater majority of young Isis fighters are well educated compared to their fellow countrymen. You can talk about how they have little knowledge of Islamic law but them being uneducated is a lie.


btw, you didn't answer my question - have you read the quran or the sunnah? it's fine if you didn't, but it bothers me when people act like an authority on islam because they read "10 VERSES THAT PROVE ISLAM IS EVIL" on some clickbait site, which tends to happen quite often.

also: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-documents-leak-recruits-islam-sharia-religion-faith-syria-iraq-a7193086.html

in general, people who are recruited by isis have a poor understanding of islam/the holy text. ill have to look for a source for the illiterate thing.
over 7 years
also not at all strawman when i say the free territory of ukraine and u just point to modern day ukraine or how i specificly said zapatista and u point to whole mexico
over 7 years

GentIeman says

I believe communism is a childish ideology and extremely naive. Everyone's work and contribution is equal! We need the government to control everything so no one takes advantage of the system XDXD.



pictured: gentleman's understanding of communism
over 7 years
i like how much uk about rojava u would call it a country
over 7 years
jesus christ did u just, no country has ever had anarchy on me lmao
over 7 years
"Yo.you.. just don't understand communism"