Reworking the whisper mechanic, a role patrol special edition.
We've all gotten screwed by that one whisper that just HAD to leak and ruin the game for us. So we got to thinking, why should whispering, which is a very important part of the game, be left up to crappy RNG? So here's what we came up with:
Old random leaks are done away with.
Instead, after the first whisper between two users, subsequent whispers have a chance to leak participants.
The more whispers that are exchanged between the two users, the greater the chance to leak grows.
Everyone will receive a system message that reads as "User A whispered something to User B..."
Roles that force leaks such as the Loudmouth reveal the content of the whisper.
With this system, a few concepts that went into whispers come into play. Like original whispers, people will still be seeings who you are communicating with, but now the contents won't cause a problem. The whispers only start to get revealed if you whisper too much, which stops the mafia from having improvised day meetings without suspicion. Finally, it still allows for some interaction with roles that deal with whispers (currently only the LM, but maybe more in the future).
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Now all leaks mean nothing because it could be anything from I saved you, to I gunned you, to hey did you see that tv show last night?
I think first whisper should still have a chance of leaking. Like suggested, start at a low percent chance of leaking and slowly move up. This would properly mimic an actual hidden conversation. If you are talking to someone in hushed tones the more time that goes by, the more comfortable you feel and the louder you might be making you more likely to be overheard.
Main lobby also did this while dealing with the potential of what you are saying to be leaked. It adds an element to the game and taking it away just because it doesn't always end well seems foolish. It's a game of strategy, use strategy in your whispers.
deletedalmost 8 years
Can we at least have an option to keep it the original way or a poll.. it seems dumb that 2 users can
On the contrary, I think this change is for the better. Now, instead of games being more or less over day one when you contact your mafia partner and everybody sees it, everybody whispering throws considerable suspicion on everybody but keeps things in the air. You might say it's better if it still had the content leakage and just didn't leak the first whisper ever, but even then if you're coordinating with your clear or your mafia partner or loved/angel target or whatever, it doesn't out you and make you look bad. In Sandbox we usually just contact our third mafia partner once and be done with it, but that's A) a bad way of playing a game and B) in my experience, not how it's done in Main lobby.
this change is an huge change that affects everyone, in sandbox, main, and every other lobby.
can we put it up to a vote instead, lucid?
deletedalmost 8 years
The proposed mechanic of the first whisper having less of a chance of leaking is plenty enough protection for non visiting maf to be contacted. Hiding the contents takes away a big part of the game and makes leaks useless. You can simply claim you were talking about anything and the leaks now offer far less to the game.
The intention behind leaks was meant to mimic playing mafia IRL, that is, if someone whispered someone else while sitting around a table you would clearly see it happening. With this new system, it retains the same intent while not screwing over someone because their claim or contact became public to the town.
nvm it was just pointed out that this only applies to leaks and not every single whisper
deletedalmost 8 years
Didn't the 'no leak' for the first whisper solve the leaking mafia partners flaw? It just seems stupid that a large part of the site got simplified. Also this makes the plumber role weaker as what's the point in breaking someones pipes if all it does is show their names? They could be talking about their weekend for all we know. Please change back
What ruins non meeting mafs more? Seeing that someone happened to whisper someone else? Or that the one whisper you sent to the 3rd mafia with the name of your partner leaked to the town and now they have all 3 of you?
