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Top 10 Mafia Players

deletedover 8 years

Only list players that you've actually played with.

For me it's (subject to change)

  1. Empire/Tatami
  2. Regfan/Maxwell
  3. Shivv
  4. Gira/animegayboy69
  5. Turquoise
  6. Jesusofnazareth
  7. Anthony
  8. Calvin/Jericho
  9. Brownpimp007 (pre-isp stage)
  10. Jeffreyaaron
over 8 years
I explicitly said competitive games and not FP, I don't know why you would cite an FP player. I posted 80% over 7k on FP.
deletedover 8 years
zwink is possibly actually the best player epicmafia has ever seen
deletedover 8 years
Zwink kinda reminds me of Terra
deletedover 8 years
by a show of hands, who here has been zwink'd?
deletedover 8 years
i really don't understand how zwink got that pie tbh lol
over 8 years
what i'm trying to say is that it isn't hard to get wins vs 90% of this user base. you should judge skill on stacked tables
deletedover 8 years
look at this account: https://epicmafia.com/user/241655/statistics

best epicmafia player lol
over 8 years
several hundred
deletedover 8 years

Tatami says

Round percentages are very inaccurate-almost every gold winner has swung 70% rounds. None of them are 70% players. Sample size is a huge thing.


this is with the new stat thing where u can count ur wins playing with certain players. after that 68% he fell off hard
over 8 years
Having 60% after 100 games is one thing. Having 60% after 300 games is another.
over 8 years
How many games did you have, Ian?
over 8 years
i know that you know that i am dogsh*t

you shouldn't judge skill on win rates
over 8 years
Round percentages are very inaccurate-almost every gold winner has swung 70% rounds. None of them are 70% players. Sample size is a huge thing.
over 8 years
tatami i've had three 60%+ wr accounts and i'm actual dogsh*t
deletedover 8 years
fancy pants is literally more townsided than classic mafia, which would yield higher winrates

blister's account seemed pretty legit to me, i played games with them.

same thing with dave running rounds with bear, kerry etc., dude swung 68% win percentages, just he didn't do it so consistently
over 8 years
I saw the Blister account but 1. Am skeptical of claim to legitimacy 2. A lot of x2 games makes it more susceptible to luck, and Blister has largely failed to recreate that success across multiple accounts unlike other players (ex. Abe/Connor)

veryniceboy says

soben's stats were god-tier


I never denied that. I am saying that 60-62% in the modern day (Not FP) is similarly and potentially more godtier.

My point is that it is remarkably difficult to compare across eras as a result of earlier winrate inflation, with uncertainty as to equivalency in modern rates. It is not that they are not incredible achievements. I think some of my questions here are more than enough already to prove the inflation point.
deletedover 8 years
classic mafia was more maf-sided than fancy pants btw
deletedover 8 years
also it was people being sharper a second ago, now they're trolls.

go play a few games dude. i'm about the only troll out there
deletedover 8 years

Tatami says


veryniceboy says

dude u think all these clowns playing fancy pants have brought about 'winrate deflation'


There's a much better argument than "old players are better" that you could be making which is really subjective and hard to prove.

The strongest arguments for the old players in fact being that much better are:

1. The setups. Virtually very competitive setup was Day 1 MyLo which made it significantly harder to win as town (and therefore harder to win overall)

2. Throwers/trolls running rampant. Again, makes it much harder to win as town.

All of these together would lower the expected w/r, and I'm still not exactly sure why it's inflated, but looking at the numbers and comparing them to the best players since now makes it incredibly unlikely. The inability of these players to reproduce these winrates in more recent play reinforces this hypothesis.


blister took a 69% winrate across 10k pts recently playing consistently with a bunch of friends. wasn't cheating, just inclinations. games is the past were stacked, that's the explanation. it's not harder to win now, it's just there's nobody good here anymore. the whole site is one big sandbox now, why would there be? soben's stats were god-tier
deletedover 8 years
once you've been on this site for as long as i have, being good at the game really just depends on how long and well you have known certain players. i would say i've played more games with you than any other player soda, which makes it easier for me to read you. that's why players like gerry and jeffrey etc all play with each other, it's just easier that way
over 8 years
turq is my favorite
over 8 years

veryniceboy says

dude u think all these clowns playing fancy pants have brought about 'winrate deflation'


There's a much better argument you could be making than "old players are better from my experience" which is really subjective and hard to prove.

The strongest arguments for the old players in fact being that much better are:

1. The setups. Virtually very competitive setup was Day 1 MyLo which made it significantly harder to win as town (and therefore harder to win overall)

2. Throwers/trolls running rampant. Again, makes it much harder to win as town.

All of these together would lower the expected w/r, and I'm still not exactly sure why it's inflated, but looking at the numbers and comparing them to the best players since now makes it incredibly unlikely. The inability of these players to reproduce these winrates in more recent play reinforces this hypothesis.
over 8 years
I was actually an extremely solid player back when I cared.
deletedover 8 years
he was probably about the best of the later players, pretty much just for being opposite to brownpimp. you mislynched him, he was a fcking thesaurus of insults and never letting you live it down. this game is pressure. nobody wants to feel like any of those mean things shivv was calling them in the game
deletedover 8 years
im the best!!!!!!