At present, there are 20 moderators. Some follow precedent, some don't, but ultimately they all have their own benchmarks for what is or isn't acceptable. As a result, there are far too many flaws within the way this site is handled; from a sheer lack of understanding, to grudge driven decisions, to blindly sheeping one another upon request (this can be highlighted as my appeal has been hand-picked from the open reports and immediately sustained by Totori).
I was going to write up a large OP about this, but quite frankly I'd only be wasting my breath.
Bottom line is quite simply this - a 20 man weeb squad isn't going to bode well when it comes to website moderation.
deletedover 8 years
I just don't see where it's obvious that she is auto-sustaining your appeal.
Well I understand why you'd defend him, but I mean, I'm not going to have an argument with you about subjectivity especially when you've a duty to protect their integrity. I'm basically just trying to bring to the surface some issues which are clearly detrimental.
deletedover 8 years
[3:55:13 AM] Patrick: the fact of the matter is that violations only become prevalent in advantage of the mods
[3:55:26 AM] Patrick: either to justify themselves [3:55:28 AM] Patrick: or make a point
[3:55:38 AM] Patrick: this is why overmoderation of HC is a thing right now
this thread will almost certainly be either locked (90%) or deleted (9.99%)
deletedover 8 years
That doesn't solve the main issue
I can't really assume that Totori just auto sustained it. The only thing you can see is that she agrees with the verdict, that's all. . . Like what I'm getting at is how is it possible to 'know' a moderator's intent behind sustaining report? I don't know, does that make sense?
As someone who has moderated for a long period of time, you don't just cherry pick appeals from the middle of the open reports without being prompted.
I'm guilty of cherry picking appeals.. I don't know dude, your argument is based off the time the report got done, when it could've been a quick read and something like: Do I agree with the verdict? Yes? Sustaining it. You can't judge Totori's intent, imo.
deletedover 8 years
Yet anti encourages threads that go directly against what adsense pointed out as offensive
This is somewhat irrelevant to the thread, but antikrist doesn't actually understand how the forums have operated prior to her being appointed. She shouldn't really be self-moderating anything in these forums, especially when she doesn't even apply the correct suspension for the violation given. Incompetence, really.
look, the violation is stupid, antikrist being a moderator and having decision making privileges is even worse than the vio she gave. totori is prob antikrist's alt or something bc no one would sustian that
I can't really assume that Totori just auto sustained it. The only thing you can see is that she agrees with the verdict, that's all. . . Like what I'm getting at is how is it possible to 'know' a moderator's intent behind sustaining report? I don't know, does that make sense?
As someone who has moderated for a long period of time, you don't just cherry pick appeals from the middle of the open reports without being prompted.
Yeah but hedger, you need to remember that thread was up for a week and contained moderator posts. I imagine maybe 8-9 mods at the very least have seen that thread and left it alone. Why is it that one moderator (who hates me) can just come along and assert their personal precedent and expect me to accept their sole opinion as jurisdiction?
i literally thought the thread was deleted by accident, it was just a draw it thread
deletedover 8 years
That doesn't solve the main issue
I can't really assume that Totori just auto sustained it. The only thing you can see is that she agrees with the verdict, that's all. . . Like what I'm getting at is how is it possible to 'know' a moderator's intent behind sustaining report? I don't know, does that make sense?
if a mod deletes a thread and all she has to say is 'nope' -- how can she then give a violation if the user repeats the action? what does she say in the report? does she say the user was warned? does she say "the user should have known what i was thinking." how was a 'nope' in mod actions a suitable warning that there was any offense at all? what if the user thought the deleted thread was a misclick? because literally that's what i thought. who the actual fcuk would delete a thread containing draw it paintings? no one with any common fcuking sense would. and if there is one person so miserable in the universe to delete a draw it thread, she should stand by her decision and explain her reasoning
okay, tbf, the fact that the thread was deleted by a mod made it pretty obvious, that it was because of the content and that they don't want the thread remade 10 seconds later.
it's really easy as a mod to delete threads and make decisions and be a boring fcuk by removing stuff you find personally offensive for some fcuking dull idiotic backwards thinking subjective reason, and antikrist is like a perfect portrait of that
deletedover 8 years
Correct. Which is why they should make it easier for themselves.
if a mod deletes a thread and all she has to say is 'nope' -- how can she then give a violation if the user repeats the action? what does she say in the report? does she say the user was warned? does she say "the user should have known what i was thinking." how was a 'nope' in mod actions a suitable warning that there was any offense at all? what if the user thought the deleted thread was a misclick? because literally that's what i thought. who the actual fcuk would delete a thread containing draw it paintings? no one with any common fcuking sense would. and if there is one person so miserable in the universe to delete a draw it thread, she should stand by her decision and explain her reasoning
Truth is though, the verdict doesn't really bother me so much. I just don't appreciate being grudged by moderators / auto sustained. This is far more the problem than a little violation.
well the mods are the ones that make it confusing for themselves. Everything could be made clear and logical but the mod team is ignorant which is where the problem lies.
Also red heart games and gold heart games shouldn't change the ruling to be perfectly honest. Leniency for red heart games should obviously be in place but just cuz it's a red heart game, that doesn't mean my intent changed so that I was trolling rather than gamethrowing. Either I was trolling or I was gamethrowing. The actual type of game shouldn't determine which one I was doing.