Epicmafia

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also ya, cop getting cc'd d1 is way better than cop outing and going clear

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i'd have prs not claim and go balls-to-the-wall anyway

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wtf, what pros? at worst ur probably gonna have one pr outed trying to random lynch. then that pr leads and hammers someone. this is the exact situation u think the town should start with.

but then at best, both prs go scot-free and game gets owned by town.

but i mean scum should probably cc cop if they're getting lynched, sure, so it all goes back to the same. alright lol

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LOBL is one of my favorite setups but it's too hard to fill, and I've had to switch to frontier justice which is a bad setup

animegayboy69

almost 10 years

not actual sure why ppl would prefer something as bland as o2r dawnstart compared to lobl

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Cop should definitely out, Sirius. The pros far outweigh the cons, really think about it.

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looks like i'm suspended from mafia guys

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Froce says

And same case with frontier justice

Frontier Justice is town autowin though, it's actually stupidly easy and doesn't take much thinking, kids are just bad.

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i mean i hardly care so what am i talking about, but i'm right lol. cop outing d1 in dawn start o2r is just handing away a pr for free. if prs get outed, they get outed. simple as. one dies probably at most and ur no worse off than if u had cop claim at worst

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i guess that's maybe tilting it in the townsided direction, but uh... it's less of a tilt anyway

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PMoney says

belovedprincess says

they should make vdli 7-man dawn start instead. that setup is broken af with scum nk'ing and stalking to always hit bp before the game even starts

but ya this setup is also pretty significantly scumsided. not so sure cop should out tho. cc's make no difference, still 50/50

dude if scum nk and bp's unhit then you lynch on that day

lynching with 8 players affords u worse overall odds of winning than with 7. the setup was good before the meteor meta ruined it. got a swing ever now and again when bp got hit or orc died, but otherwise smooth sailing and pretty equal winchance. meteor meta scumsides the setup hugely

PMoney

almost 10 years

belovedprincess says

they should make vdli 7-man dawn start instead. that setup is broken af with scum nk'ing and stalking to always hit bp before the game even starts

but ya this setup is also pretty significantly scumsided. not so sure cop should out tho. cc's make no difference, still 50/50

dude if scum nk and bp's unhit then you lynch on that day

Froce

almost 10 years

And same case with frontier justice

Froce

almost 10 years

Wasn't there a guide on what setups to add to comp a thread or something it's made by bronto and it mentioned a setup having 55-45 ratio max and if it exceeds it's not good enough for comp, where is it with this one?

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just so long as gov doesn't ot onto cop

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they should make vdli 7-man dawn start instead. that setup is broken af with scum nk'ing and stalking to always hit bp before the game even starts

but ya this setup is also pretty significantly scumsided. not so sure cop should out tho. cc's make no difference, still 50/50

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^ yeah, I think that's true sadly. I still think this is the optimal way to play this setup though, and I don't think it should be 60% scumsided by any means

animegayboy69

almost 10 years

it's going to be scumsided no matter what, removing n1 from o2r benefits scum far more than town

e: of course you're absolutely right, though

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Before you say "but he could live to lylo w/ gov huehue"

1. He won't

2. He can be cc'd on lylo

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The more I think about it the more absolutely certain I am that cop is more effective as a day one clear due to the dawn start

Claim cop day one in O2R dawnstart