At best he catches the nilla, if he even lives. Odds say that he probably doesn't even do that. He is more useful as a day one clear, which will then probably be nightkilled, ensuring the gov lives to 5 way at least
cop outing doesn't increase the chance of mafia getting lynched, it increases the chance of cop getting outed (to 100%)
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Right well, it's a pretty awful setup either way. Dawnstart doesn't work with it. But if you want the best odds of winning, cop should be claiming day one.
Nah, play as if town has 0 clears. Just let gov OT if he thinks it's an obvious town getting lynched. If I wanted cop to claim d1 I would rather play CnS/CnO.
the worst case scenario for scum if they NK n1 on VDLI seems to be 50% EV
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sigh
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Well actually the EV would tell you that it's optimal for cop to claim even if he isn't cc'd, but I bet cop would get cc'd a good third of the time any damn way
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i have been in this thread for over and hour and a half lol. what am i doing here dudes seriously
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"Aw man, I thought this was the one with a cop and a doc"
>Most ubiquitous quote in every 7 player gold heart game.
Now you want to tell me, no one is going to cc cop?
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this is correct. sonse ur strat is basically equal to cop claims suboptimally then mafia ccs him suboptimally, then it's cool lol
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dumb
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Sirius: it wont happen if cop claims straight out dumbass. it leaves mafia with no incentive to cc him. they only cc him so they can kill a pr for sure. otherwise they forgo the 1/2 that is cc'ing him and take the 3/5 chance that the clear cop mishammers
Except, it will, because noobs cc cop every opportunity they get because every setup is fancy pants
This is the current strategy. Great job guys, the evidence is really on your side here. Now let's either try a better strategy or blacklist this setup because kids can't be trusted with it
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it wont happen if cop claims straight out dumbass. it leaves mafia with no incentive to cc him. they only cc him so they can kill a pr for sure. otherwise they forgo the 1/2 that is cc'ing him and take the 3/5 chance that the clear cop mishammers
Highly doubt any of those games had anything to do with cop claiming D1 or not.
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Ccs locking in the vote between two people is literally the best thing that can possibly happen to town in this setup, which this strategy encourages to happen right away.
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i've even explained them dumbass. this is embarrassingly dumb on ur behalf lol. the ev cannot account for ccs locking in the votes between 2 people for example
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You guys have done a great job of making STBS with an OT a 62% scumsided setup with your whole lot of things, and stuff
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"There are a whole lot of things, and that is why I am right"
