Epicmafia

How to make maf lose when cop n1'd

over 9 years

In fancy pants if cop dies n1, you can just nl until meteor.

Have players 1, 2, & 3 vote player 4. Then have player 5 & 6 vote player 3. Wait for timer to run out. Have 1 person kick.

Player 4 then has 2 options. He can vote player 3 and force meteor or he can self vote and die. Because he is the one being lynched if he is town he can legally force meteor. Meteor is only GT if you are not faced with an autolose situation. If player 4 is village then, its not gt since he has no possible way to win.

However if player 4 is maf, he then must self vote since he isnt in an autolose scenario.

Either way, mafia will lose. You may argue "but if meteor is drawn town loses too" and you are correct. But mafia wont be down with this strategy. You'll figure out who they are before the votes ever get locked.

I give you all this strategy because I came up with it 3 weeks ago and have been reported 3 times in roughly 5 games when this has happened. The first time I was not given a violation for this strategy. The mod said they were discussing it with the admin and although it is unfair to maf it is within the rules. I was reported yesterday and given a vio today from another report. This is inconsistency within the moderating team and if I was given the OK to do this approach by one mod I'd like to think others wouldnt give me vios for something I was told was ok.

What do you guys think? Is this OGI? Is using the rules to your advantage really OGI? Are not rules a part of the game itself?

deletedover 9 years

There's nothing to keep scum from blitzing this right before timer ticks out. There are zero benefits to doing this as town.

LIoyd

over 9 years

again we just need clarification if its not allowed I would like to know what rule is it breaking? (or are you making a new rule cause packidy is too smart for the old rules)

packidy

over 9 years

NothinButTime1 says

just lynch mafia before it gets to meteor. how bad can you guys be

Its not about being bad its about finding a new ways to view the game and to find more strategic ways to find yourself out of a difficult situation.

LIoyd

over 9 years

You have to look at this very technically and not emotionally. the strat may not boost his chances. but it doesnt break any rule. also if you get mafia there is a strong chance that their partner will try to stop it from happening revealing the second mafia. I love this strat.

deletedover 9 years

tldr

NothinButTime1

over 9 years

just lynch mafia before it gets to meteor. how bad can you guys be

LIoyd

over 9 years

packidy is right. and the mods are inconsistent. I would be disappointed if I was you packidy, but try to give the mods a break they have lives too. It is a brilliant strategy this just needs to reviewed and publicly addressed that it is either ok or not ok. instead of getting vios/not getting vios just depending on the whim of a mod.

You shouldve won your appeal for more than one reason and I know its gotta suck to get a vio you dont deserve.

packidy

over 9 years

Thank you for actually having a discussion on a discussion board, Murica.

Anthony

over 9 years

I didn't realize there was a strategy to make fancy pants even more toxic

Murica

over 9 years

This is NOT reportable. You did not break the game, you just outsmarted the way people are currently playing it. That's how strategy works, somebody figures out a superior way, and everyone adapts to it. It's constant evolution.

GOODGAME

over 9 years

Oh look, it's packidy with his usual BS.

Anthony

over 9 years

packidy says

If he is blue, he can force meteor and its not an issue because with a dead cop the town was probably going to lose anyways.

good lord

packidy

over 9 years

haha, what contradiction? this strat uses both rxns, logic, and the rules to towns advantage. Where is the contradiction?

Transcend

over 9 years

tl;dr fancy pants all-star packidy goes complete ape**** while contradicting himself multiple times.

packidy

over 9 years

No, I do not assume player 4 is mafia. If he is blue, he can force meteor and its not an issue because with a dead cop the town was probably going to lose anyways. And if he is blue then he will force meteor. The mafia wont allow that, so they will refuse to follow your instruction (this has been the case every time and because they get caught failing the rxn test they report me).

Transcend

over 9 years

this is flawed because maybe, just maybe, town wouldn't want to be faced in autolose position either.

ChiakiNanami

over 9 years

Why would you use this strategy? You're coming to the conclusion that Player 4 is mafia regardless. If everybody agreed with this strategy, they're agreeing that Player 4 is mafia, since if Player 4 is town, town will lose since meteor will be forced. And if you're agreeing that they're scum, then just lynch them. All this would do is allow the mafia the opportunity of making everyone lose.

Whoever told you this was okay has less of a brain than you.