Epicmafia

almost 10 years

if you want to start an argument over whether or not the states have to recognize the supreme court's decision, do it in another topic.

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Straw man argument since that is not what we are talking about.

I gave constitutional law which shows that the courts decision violates the constitution and is not valid and thus should not be obeyed.

LGames

almost 10 years

Nobody should really have their jimmies rustled in the first place. Church and Court marriages are two different things. And this new law doesn't affect church marriages at all.

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'When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."-George RR Martin

ArieI

almost 10 years

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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There is no place in the constitution that labels marriage as a right and thus it is differed to the states under the 10th amendment to decide since it is not explicitly stated in any of the constitutional amendments.

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You throw around the term "bigot" slowbear but the only one being bigoted is the one refusing to listen to what anyone else says and instead calling them a bigot.

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"

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"yes, i really care about government and legal loopholes when i say i'm against gay marriage, instead of just being an enormous bigot"

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if you're against gay rights then that's pretty homosexual HAHA OK upvoet this post if you laughed a lot

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straw man argument that has nothing to do with the logic I gave.

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Idiot.

blacksnakemoan

almost 10 years

Marriage pre-dates religion. It's a societal construct appropriated by religion, and later monitored by government.

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But you are forgetting that NOWHERE in the constitution does it say that marriage is a right. No state has any obligation to recognize any marriage whatsoever be it between the same sex or the opposite sex. Marriage is not a constitutional right but was rather a religious institution that was later adopted by the government because there is value to the society and the government to recognize marriage. BUT they are under no obligation to do so.

blacksnakemoan

almost 10 years

shiggyshaggy says

Nowhere in the U.S constitution does it mention marriage as a fundamental right. If it is not directly mentioned in the U.S constitution it is delegated to the states as a state rights issue under the 10th amendment.

If equality is guaranteed, then one group can't be offered something that another isn't.

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Nowhere in the U.S constitution does it mention marriage as a fundamental right. If it is not directly mentioned in the U.S constitution it is delegated to the states as a state rights issue under the 10th amendment.

blacksnakemoan

almost 10 years

Laexio says

is it not outlined in your constitution that all people are equal?

Except gays, blacks, women, muslims, and non-US citizens.

Laexio

almost 10 years

is it not outlined in your constitution that all people are equal?

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rutab says

I'm pretty sure legally the states can win if they want to revoke same-sex marriage rights because technically they're protected under the 10th amendment to regulate any issue not outlined in the Constitution

THIS^

That was the point of the dissenting opinion. The majority Opinion has nothing to do with the actual tradition of marriage for thousands of years, its teleological significance to humankind and our continued existence or the constitution because nowhere in the constitution does it mention that marriage of any kind to any person is a fundamental right. It is constitutionally erroneous.

blacksnakemoan

almost 10 years

Devante says

blacksnakemoan says

Gira says

you know i realized we havent given credit to the man responsible for making this happen: macklemore

#whitepeople

Remember when he also taught black people how to and got a Grammy for it

what a stupid post this was

You're not seriously saying that you missed the sarcasm oozing out of that comment are you? Here, I'll put in a /s for you so you don't have to try so hard.

"Remember when he also taught black people how to and got a Grammy for it /s"

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Wait wait wait.... you're telling me that people are making dumb posts in an epicmafia.com forum thread about gay marriage????????? HOLD THE PHONE.

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blacksnakemoan says

Gira says

you know i realized we havent given credit to the man responsible for making this happen: macklemore

#whitepeople

Remember when he also taught black people how to and got a Grammy for it

what a stupid post this was

blacksnakemoan

almost 10 years

Gira says

you know i realized we havent given credit to the man responsible for making this happen: macklemore

#whitepeople

Remember when he also taught black people how to and got a Grammy for it

Gira

almost 10 years

you know i realized we havent given credit to the man responsible for making this happen: macklemore

xJade

almost 10 years

Delicate says

xJade says

i cut off all of my hair just in time!

PICS

Natecat

almost 10 years

In the marijuana laws case, it is a case of state laws conflicting with federal laws, but in this case, it's a case of state laws conflicting with the constitution which makes them essentially illegal

Same Sex Marriage/USA