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Transgenderism is a legitimate point of debate whether you like it or not, and it's idiotic, morally repugnant, and outside the boundaries of your jurisdiction as a mod to delete a thread about it. Also Sonseray please link me the South Park clip

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peta should renuke this thread.
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kook says


mikrozoft says

I don't like my legs. I was born to be legless. If you tell me I'm insane, you're oppressing me. Don't give me medicine to make me stop trying to cut off my legs. I have the right to change my body and if you don't support it you're oppressing me.


countering a real condition recognized by psychiatrists worldwide with one that you just invented via strenuous application of the two maximum three neurons in orbit around the dull rock that is your cerebral centerpiece. idiot


wow u got me bro im seriously just about to slit my wrists and then cut off my shove it down my mouth and call myself a grill because i identify as that :(((((((((((((((((((((
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actually i shouldn't say whether they justify our defense spending. i have pretty much zero knowledge of our defense spending so i can't formulate a well-read opinion on it
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actually our recent foreign interventions largely justify our defense spending. the post-9/11 wave of vague ill-thought-out opposition to foreign intervention is one of the few areas where the american liberal echo chamber has got it wrong. but that's a different story. i just brought up defense spending because it's the obvious liberal example
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Dibbun says

global obligations


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


read some kenneth waltz you stupid douche
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What is your opposition to defense spending? We have a lot of global obligations, such as maintaining a presence in South Korea to deter North Korean aggression, bases in all NATO countries for collective security against Russia, currently the USS Theodore Roosevelt is in Yemen to intercept Iranian arms shipments to Houathi rebels. Not to mention our tensions with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas...
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ummm I feel like you are responding to me as if I am dibbun...which I am not. lol. I was just pointing out that I don't mind dibbun's rant about his tax dollars. also both you and dibbun's opinion's of where tax dollars should go are just that. OPINION'S! if he thinks it is ridiculous his tax dollars are going to pay for an illegal immigrants abortion and you feel it isn't...that's ok on both sides. not everyone has to think alike and not everyone is gonna agree on everything bro.
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it's ok and indeed encouraged to care where your money goes. it's not the caring that's objectionable. what's objectionable is being selective about which allocations you off. lgbtq gets you in a tizzy but defense spending doesn't. the other objectionable thing is that you are wrong to complain about elective abortions, etc., being unfit for tax money allocation
over 9 years
i get it
over 9 years
but that's just my 2 cents. GET IT?!?!??!?! ;)
over 9 years

kook says

my quality of life is truly ravaged by the allocation of a few dollars that i have to pay the government every year toward abortion. if i wind up having to give 50 cents a year to the burgeoning transgender empire too on top of that i might just do something rash


what do you classify as a few dollars? lol. some of us pay a lot of money in taxes, so it is not ridiculous for someone to care about where said dollars are going.
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i cannot abide the notion that by giving some % of my money to the government i might be making someone else happier
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my quality of life is truly ravaged by the allocation of a few dollars that i have to pay the government every year toward abortion. if i wind up having to give 50 cents a year to the burgeoning transgender empire too on top of that i might just do something rash
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imbecile
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I CANNOT BELIEVE THESE A-HOLES ARE PUTTING MY TAX DOLLARS TOWARD ALLOWING WOMEN TO NOT HAVE BABIES THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE OR PAY FOR ARE WE EVEN #1 IN DEFENSE SPENDING ANYMORE JESUS CHIRST
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Dibbun says

The reason I posted the abortion link is because what seems like a harmless idea eventually affects others.

I work, and I am a taxpayer.


hoo boy here we go


Dibbun says

This may seem foreign to a lot of you high school/college students, but you will (hopefully) pay taxes too someday.


hmm. yes


Dibbun says

When I see my tax money going towards elective abortions for illegal immigrants, it pisses me off.


nope


Dibbun says

These are people who have never contributed anything to the US,


wrong


Dibbun says

yet expect to receive free medical service while breaking our laws.


shut up lol


Dibbun says

Similarly, I could really give a damn what people want to cut off their bodies, but it's a slippery slope until ObamaCare covers transgender surgery.


here we go


Dibbun says

When a person's genitalia functions normally and does not cause them physical pain through normal use, the desire to remove said apparatus is ELECTIVE.


oxygen masks can be located in overhead compartments folks


Dibbun says

In other words, it is a CHOICE.


fasten your seat belt and buckle your life vests everyone


Dibbun says

Now am I going to have to pay for that choice with my tax money? Probably.


the thought of supporting social progress. i thought you were all about being a contributor


Dibbun says

Do I think it's BS? Yes.


don't care lol


Dibbun says

Gay marriage has minimal financial cost (tax breaks for married couples, etc) but


true love is has no dollar value folks


Dibbun says

this transgender agenda


and doowwwwn we gooo


Dibbun says

is going to bankrupt the medical system with whimsical procedures by attention-seeking miscreants.

In other words, do whatever you want, but if you expect me to pay for it, I am more than entitled to my opinion concerning what you want done.


whatever psychopath
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thanks
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The reason I posted the abortion link is because what seems like a harmless idea eventually affects others.

I work, and I am a taxpayer. This may seem foreign to a lot of you high school/college students, but you will (hopefully) pay taxes too someday.

When I see my tax money going towards elective abortions for illegal immigrants, it pisses me off. These are people who have never contributed anything to the US, yet expect to receive free medical service while breaking our laws.

Similarly, I could really give a damn what people want to cut off their bodies, but it's a slippery slope until ObamaCare covers transgender surgery.

When a person's genitalia functions normally and does not cause them physical pain through normal use, the desire to remove said apparatus is ELECTIVE. In other words, it is a CHOICE. Now am I going to have to pay for that choice with my tax money? Probably. Do I think it's BS? Yes.

Gay marriage has minimal financial cost (tax breaks for married couples, etc) but this transgender agenda is going to bankrupt the medical system with whimsical procedures by attention-seeking miscreants.

In other words, do whatever you want, but if you expect me to pay for it, I am more than entitled to my opinion concerning what you want done.
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also frankly the whole travesti thing is a moot point. ariel, orly is invoking a hierarchy of needs just as you are; he's just putting gender dysphoria or whatever you want to call it toward the top. and we all know it doesn't belong at the bottom. but the point of maslow's hierarchy or any given equivalent isn't that we should disregard issues toward the top of the hierarchy (although there are ethicists who make a very strong case, toward which i am sympathetic, for devoting way way way more resources to the bottom)
over 9 years
self-mutilation is generally not a healthy thing to do, according to basically the entire medical community

but yeah, whip/cut/dismember yourself if you want
over 9 years
what does it matter to you what other people do to their genitals?
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isn't it the case that societies with more than 2 genders find less instances of genital mutilation? i recall a study explaining precisely that, basically implying that sex change operations / medication is not necessary to properly define one's gender
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kook says


Orly says

in short, transgenderism is a #firstworldproblem


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travesti


#HAAAAAAAAAAAN
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a lot of real social issues could be dubbed first world problems. that doesn't mean people should just suck it up and suffer. yeah, not starving to death takes precedent to gender issues. that doesn't undermine the argument that gender dysphoria is an extant problem that plagues enough people to warrant a fix
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Orly says

in short, transgenderism is a #firstworldproblem


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travesti