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So I was reading around on the internet and apparently people are actually fighting for "Pedosexuals"... it's as it sounds, pedophiles. It baffles me that people are actually such SJW that they could argue for such a thing.... if you don't believe me search for the "fckh8" posters and articles. man.....

over 9 years

Sirius says

i was actually talking about arcbell, rondar, but cheers mate. and arcbell ... ur right, i do.


Oh. Oops.
over 9 years

Arcbell says

well i think sirius feels that merely being a pedophile, crime or no crime, makes you a bad person, is all.


Yeah and that's what I'm trying to argue against. The bulk of evidence suggests that pedophilia is a string of biological urges, i.e. a condition needing treatment. You have a person who, by existing, is a possible threat. But does that mean that this is a person who wants to be in this position, or that this is a person who will not try to get away from this position? No, not necessarily.
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Rutab says

I don't understand how you can be so sympathetic towards this, I mean I understand if its your friend and you want to help them, but do you have this mindset for all criminals? whose to say that all criminals dont have mental issues?? Homicide, , assault, why not say theyre all deranged and deserve more help than societal isolation?


Seeing as we've decided as a society that punishment is more important than rehabilitation it's kind of irrelevant how many of them are sick, because no one cares enough to distinguish
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i was actually talking about arcbell, rondar, but cheers mate. and arcbell ... ur right, i do.
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I don't understand how you can be so sympathetic towards this, I mean I understand if its your friend and you want to help them, but do you have this mindset for all criminals? whose to say that all criminals dont have mental issues?? Homicide, , assault, why not say theyre all deranged and deserve more help than societal isolation?
over 9 years
im not keen on judging people on how their mind is different from mine either, but i think it's just important enough for some people that no amount of redeeming qualities can put someone back in the good
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Rondar says

If treatment was an option that was actually advertised more, do you think the number of abuse cases would drop or increase?


i have nothing against this, but we've been talking about being friends with paedophiles. would u have ur paedo friend in the same room with ur niece or nephew or son or whatever, so long as u were keeping an eye on him? i mean to crave sex is hardly much different than to crave meat. it belittles us more than anything else. it's actually legit psychology that sex will make monsters of us over anything else. that wutang dude cut his d*ck off only recently trying to escape from it. and then to crave sex with kids has to be that depravity taken to its most extreme. it's hard to see humanity in that, for me, tbh. but f*ck, set up places for them to go. let them receive treatment. hopefully they'll not make life hell for some kid.
over 9 years
well i think sirius feels that merely being a pedophile, crime or no crime, makes you a bad person, is all.
over 9 years

Arcbell says


Rondar says

I don't understand how it's so easy for you to throw a group of people who have yet to commit a crime in a corner and lable them "unforgivable".


well that's fair, but on the flipside you can be a bad person without committing a crime.


Well yes (despite me not being a big fan of the good/bad person dichotomy), but by operating under that assumption, you group up both the "good" and the "bad" who haven't committed a crime.
over 9 years

Sirius says

i also hardly understand how you're so flippantly blowing me off like that tbh.


Oh I really didn't mean to come off like that. Not at all. I understand it's a very sensitive issue and only meant to articulate how seriously I take it. Didn't mean to blow anyone off, sorry. I understand your opinion, I just come off a little forceful in these issues sometimes.

And I haven't welcomed you back. Hi.
over 9 years

Rondar says

I don't understand how it's so easy for you to throw a group of people who have yet to commit a crime in a corner and lable them "unforgivable".


well that's fair, but on the flipside you can be a bad person without committing a crime.
over 9 years
yes, but if they act upon a child i won't forgive them
over 9 years
Because if you're arguing it's "for the good of the children" you're taking a very odd approach by rejecting he possibility that a person with these urges might actually want to get rid of them.
over 9 years
someone who has experienced something with a pedo has a pass for it though
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i also hardly understand how you're so flippantly blowing me off like that tbh.
over 9 years
If treatment was an option that was actually advertised more, do you think the number of abuse cases would drop or increase?
over 9 years
I don't understand how it's so easy for you to throw a group of people who have yet to commit a crime in a corner and lable them "unforgivable".
over 9 years

Sirius says


Arcbell says


Sirius says

i mean, next step is paedophiles 'falling off the wagon' or something dumb like that. they're not alcoholics. they're people who sexually abuse children. they might as well be serial killers.


na paedophiles are people who have sexual desire for children, there is a difference


it's still absolute depravity of mind. i see hardly any redemption in it personally.


sure.
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Arcbell says


Sirius says

i mean, next step is paedophiles 'falling off the wagon' or something dumb like that. they're not alcoholics. they're people who sexually abuse children. they might as well be serial killers.


na paedophiles are people who have sexual desire for children, there is a difference


it's still absolute depravity of mind. i see hardly any redemption in it personally.
over 9 years

Sirius says

i mean, next step is paedophiles 'falling off the wagon' or something dumb like that. they're not alcoholics. they're people who sexually abuse children. they might as well be serial killers.


na paedophiles are people who have sexual desire for children, there is a difference
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i mean, next step is paedophiles 'falling off the wagon' or something dumb like that. they're not alcoholics. they're people who sexually abuse children. they might as well be serial killers.
over 9 years

Sirius says

i'm really not going to be sold to this tbh. a person's humanity would most probably go straight out the window for me once they became a paedophile.


what if you became a paedophile?
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i'm really not going to be sold to this tbh. a person's humanity would most probably go straight out the window for me once they became a paedophile.
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ill respond to that bill in a min my wifi is going crap and i dont wanna mess anything up
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