So I was reading around on the internet and apparently people are actually fighting for "Pedosexuals"... it's as it sounds, pedophiles. It baffles me that people are actually such SJW that they could argue for such a thing.... if you don't believe me search for the "fckh8" posters and articles. man.....
I feel like every attempt to separate the world into these two categories has failed. You guys are proposing diminishing another person's humanity though. For me that goes way beyond "cause and effect", but is an actual moral dilemma and a reason to be distressed.
well, the issue you run into at some point is that you can't really tell if someone is rehabilitated until you give them the opportunity to recidivate, which can end badly for the people who die
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Maybe we should create a replication of the idea behind Death Parade where the arbiters sit and judge someone's soul to say whether or not they deserve to be sent into the void (prison in this case), or be reincarnated (given a second chance.) lol
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Bill I'm curious, what do you think about the life sentence for prisons
There are absolutely cases in which removing someone from society permanently is in the best interest of everyone involved, although it's probably unreasonable to expect the courts to decide this
Who can decide?
good question
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I don't think there's a reason not to at least try to rehabilitate criminals on extremely long sentences but I do realize there's a point at which it's futile to continue with some individuals
Bill I'm curious, what do you think about the life sentence for prisons
There are absolutely cases in which removing someone from society permanently is in the best interest of everyone involved, although it's probably unreasonable to expect the courts to decide this
Who can decide?
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Bill I'm curious, what do you think about the life sentence for prisons
There are absolutely cases in which removing someone from society permanently is in the best interest of everyone involved, although it's probably unreasonable to expect the courts to decide this
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By dehumanizing these people, you're only giving them more motivation to recidivate.
sometimes you just have to take a stand and say 'good' and 'evi', bro. i mean, what worth are they to you anyway if their only goodness is manipulated goodness? that's literally the game you're playing here. you reduce us to nothing, mere cause and effect.
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By dehumanizing these people, you're only giving them more motivation to recidivate.
I don't think that's a thing. I could be wrong but my instincts tell me otherwise.
It's a thing in the sense that reintegration of criminals after their incarceration is a serious issue here because of the way they're treated by others, and there are more than a negligible amount of cases in which people have gotten themselves intentionally sent back to jail due to an inability to reintegrate
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Bill I'm curious, what do you think about the life sentence for prisons
And if decreasing recidivism is they goal, you should't be so stubborn as far as treatment is concerned. That's just absurdly closed-minded.
I think the question of whether or not pedophiles who have yet to commit the crime, but are willingly being treated, should be completely isolated during the treatment process is a also a pretty interesting debate, but I feel like that just isn't a debate anyone here wants to have.
By dehumanizing these people, you're only giving them more motivation to recidivate.
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You're asking where we draw the line, and the answer is that there shouldn't be a line and every single person in the country should have access to credible, legitimate mental health professionals, including prisoners
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Locking people away as pure punishment/deterrent is effectively conceding that all criminals never advance past the first stages of reasoning and mental development. In some cases this is accurate and some people are absolutely beyond help, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to help those that are helpable while they're isolated from society anyway
I don't understand how you can be so sympathetic towards this, I mean I understand if its your friend and you want to help them, but do you have this mindset for all criminals? whose to say that all criminals dont have mental issues?? Homicide, , assault, why not say theyre all deranged and deserve more help than societal isolation?
Seeing as we've decided as a society that punishment is more important than rehabilitation it's kind of irrelevant how many of them are sick, because no one cares enough to distinguish
Pretty sure rehabilitation in such serious areas is futile
You can't just proclaim that as categorical truth.
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I don't understand how you can be so sympathetic towards this, I mean I understand if its your friend and you want to help them, but do you have this mindset for all criminals? whose to say that all criminals dont have mental issues?? Homicide, , assault, why not say theyre all deranged and deserve more help than societal isolation?
Seeing as we've decided as a society that punishment is more important than rehabilitation it's kind of irrelevant how many of them are sick, because no one cares enough to distinguish
Pretty sure rehabilitation in such serious areas is futile
I want to respond seriously to you but so far I've typed and deleted 4 versions of a post that more or less called you an idiot, sorry
im not keen on judging people on how their mind is different from mine either, but i think it's just important enough for some people that no amount of redeeming qualities can put someone back in the good
i would very much respect paedophiles who completely removed themselves from society/children. that's being a person against everything. the answer to the question u asked earlier about if i ended up a paedophile would've went along the lines of that arcbell, only i didn't want to say it.
I don't understand how you can be so sympathetic towards this, I mean I understand if its your friend and you want to help them, but do you have this mindset for all criminals? whose to say that all criminals dont have mental issues?? Homicide, , assault, why not say theyre all deranged and deserve more help than societal isolation?
They literally do. I'm not saying you don't have to act a little more aggressively in protection of a society (that's a whole other moral debate), but yes, every crime based on mental/biological urges should be taken another look at as far as current societal perception is concerned.
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I don't understand how you can be so sympathetic towards this, I mean I understand if its your friend and you want to help them, but do you have this mindset for all criminals? whose to say that all criminals dont have mental issues?? Homicide, , assault, why not say theyre all deranged and deserve more help than societal isolation?
Seeing as we've decided as a society that punishment is more important than rehabilitation it's kind of irrelevant how many of them are sick, because no one cares enough to distinguish
Pretty sure rehabilitation in such serious areas is futile
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im not keen on judging people on how their mind is different from mine either, but i think it's just important enough for some people that no amount of redeeming qualities can put someone back in the good
i would very much respect paedophiles who completely removed themselves from society/children. that's being a person against everything. the answer to the question u asked earlier about if i ended up a paedophile would've went along the lines of that arcbell, only i didn't want to say it.