Epicmafia

deletedalmost 11 years

so a game just broke where's my refund :^)

UniversalStudios

almost 11 years

It literally makes no sense how ingrained "defending bad play from bad townies" is in people that play this game.

UniversalStudios

almost 11 years

Steven says

animegayboy69 says

it stands for expected value, and it's a useful way to try to gauge the balance of basic setups

in practice there are things that throw it off but it's better than throwing crap at the wall and assuming it'll work out, "EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance" is incomprehensible

What's the EV for SDS?

And I wasn't saying that as some kind if law but general observation. I'm not saying all setups will magically turn 60/60 but definitely pure scum hunts should be a bit more balanced than first glance, like 1-2%

No they shouldn't. If the average player didn't completely suck as villager, we'd literally have to give mafia an advantage in pr setups because prs would always be able to edge out mafia. You people will never actually be able to comprehend this because you gave up on DLYV for follow the clear setups.

Giga13

almost 11 years

BiIIStickers says

the EV of a&d is extremely townsided its pretty funny

if only prs claimed pr day 1...

it would make a difference

deletedalmost 11 years

Why does everything keep getting comped and decomped

mods just pause the round or reset it until you get everything straight

deletedalmost 11 years

the EV of a&d is extremely townsided its pretty funny

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

Hibiki says

EV doesn't really apply with investigative roles

yeah, it can only really be calculated for extremely simple setups. too many variables to account for in SDS, you could maybe sim it but who the hell has time to do that

e: and even then a sim would assume ideal play in all instances which doesn't really happen

Aesop

almost 11 years

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184494 is absolutely terrible

Hibiki

almost 11 years

the point payout will suck for town though

Natalie

almost 11 years

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184494

mods this setup is completely untested how can you allow this honestly pls decomp immediately

Hibiki

almost 11 years

EV doesn't really apply with investigative roles

Steven

almost 11 years

animegayboy69 says

it stands for expected value, and it's a useful way to try to gauge the balance of basic setups

in practice there are things that throw it off but it's better than throwing crap at the wall and assuming it'll work out, "EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance" is incomprehensible

What's the EV for SDS?

And I wasn't saying that as some kind if law but general observation. I'm not saying all setups will magically turn 60/60 but definitely pure scum hunts should be a bit more balanced than first glance, like 1-2%

Hibiki

almost 11 years

... all right, i'm lost

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

i wasn't being sarcastic

Hibiki

almost 11 years

no. you presented it as a counter-point. the exclamation point sarcasm would be lost on many, so i had to refute it regardless of your intent

deletedalmost 11 years

https://epicmafia.com/game/3911304

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

that's literally what i just said, thanks

Hibiki

almost 11 years

stbs is an exception

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

not actually true, stbs is more townsided than you'd expect from random chance!

Hibiki

almost 11 years

EM leans scumsided always

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

it stands for expected value, and it's a useful way to try to gauge the balance of basic setups

in practice there are things that throw it off but it's better than throwing crap at the wall and assuming it'll work out, "EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance" is incomprehensible

Steven

almost 11 years

Anime what does EV stand for? I'm assuming it has something to do with random chance: if so, I wouldn't rely on that too much. EM makes tends to balance games a lot more than first glance

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

66% scum EV so i guess maybe i'm jumping to conclusions, but nightless tends to favor town more than the raw numbers due to townreads

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animegayboy69 says

4v2 nightless being decomped is an absolute joke, though

What the hell?

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

4v2 nightless being decomped is an absolute joke, though

Round 289 Discussion

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