BiIIStickers says

Renaldo says

trolling is inherently a weird violation because everyone has a different level of tolerance for it, and depending on the table makeup, what would get trolling in one game would be glazed over in another.

i think removing a player from the game entirely should be considered more than "trolling". i dont think the issue of getting hipfired should come down to whether your trolling tolerance was high enough to laugh it off or not.

that was lucid's idea to change hipfire from GT to trolling.

Renaldo says

trolling is inherently a weird violation because everyone has a different level of tolerance for it, and depending on the table makeup, what would get trolling in one game would be glazed over in another.

i think removing a player from the game entirely should be considered more than "trolling". i dont think the issue of getting hipfired should come down to whether your trolling tolerance was high enough to laugh it off or not.

njnj why u stealing my schtick. only i copy avatars

trolling is inherently a weird violation because everyone has a different level of tolerance for it, and depending on the table makeup, what would get trolling in one game would be glazed over in another.

BiIIStickers says

Renaldo says

BiIIStickers says

this is like league of legends, where you can be reported and banned for doing anything that isn't the established meta

imagine someone reporting a scum player for ccing cop as hooker, because that's effectively what you're punishing him for

that's a lot different, because it can't really be as easily perceived as playing not to win.

also, because it's topical: https://epicmafia.com/game/3863345/review

if a blue fakeclaims cop and the real cop roleswaps with him, and then the blue dies n3, it's seen as great play

if a blue fakeclaims cop and gets immediately shot he's a gamethrower and will get a violation

that's the way town creativity is "rewarded" on this site and kayla isn't trolling for trying to facilitate a new strategy in a setup that, frankly, needs one

Yeah of course. I mean, this is one of the flaws of gun setups since people can fake claim cop and get shot immediately before getting a chance to retract or anything. You have to read more heavily for intent. It's why roleswapping in gun setups is generally a bad idea, because people are trigger happy and will shoot you and think you threw.

It'd be nice if there was a change like this, but it's the kind of thing you need to look at more case-by-case. When you see an account like kaylag behave this way, it's easy to assume it's someone trolling.

Faker says

Just because you cannot get reads from Veejay's lines doesn't mean Eritas can't.

eritas was wrong, so i mean....what are you really defending here?

Renaldo says

BiIIStickers says

this is like league of legends, where you can be reported and banned for doing anything that isn't the established meta

imagine someone reporting a scum player for ccing cop as hooker, because that's effectively what you're punishing him for

that's a lot different, because it can't really be as easily perceived as playing not to win.

also, because it's topical: https://epicmafia.com/game/3863345/review

if a blue fakeclaims cop and the real cop roleswaps with him, and then the blue dies n3, it's seen as great play

if a blue fakeclaims cop and gets immediately shot he's a gamethrower and will get a violation

that's the way town creativity is "rewarded" on this site and kayla isn't trolling for trying to facilitate a new strategy in a setup that, frankly, needs one

Apostasy says

Pretty sure the French revolutionists didn't get a read before they cut King Louis' *ing head off, and that worked out okay for them.

let's stop posting.

Pretty sure the French revolutionists didn't get a read before they cut King Louis' *ing head off, and that worked out okay for them.