Epicmafia

Forum Rules

deletedover 10 years

Hello. A select bit of mods have been deliberating for a while on how to improve the forum experience, and we've discussed the idea of implementing Forum Rules. This is something that we want to include the community in, so your feedback/opinions are worthwhile.

Here's a rough draft for what we have in mind.

Every subforum that isnt OT is going to be moderated more heavily for off-topic posts, and moderators will reserve the right to delete your post. Don't ruin threads with your banter, go to OT for that.
We're going to try and be harder about flaming/harassment on the forums. We want to try and make the place more friendly and while it might be a bit of a change we're asking that you be patient with us and what we have in mind is merely things to be discussed.
Negative and constructive criticism is fine. We're not going to silence your opinion for disagreeing or being abrasive, just never make it personal. That's all we ask. We understand that mafia is a competitive game at it's nature and that things are bound to get heated, but that doesn't mean we have to let things get out of control.
Trolling will be treated as the same as trolling in-game. A user has a right to report you if he believes that you are trolling them or their thread. Punishments will be handed out accordingly after we readjust what the repercussions will be for forum trolling.
OT will be moderated lightly, and GD will be at the discretion of the person making the topic. All rules are going to be in effect for all other subforums.

All mods reserve to delete your posts if they are off-topic.

deletedover 10 years

Miki says

i wasnt against it :o

If that was at my point, I don't mean everyone

80% of everyone was against those "pointless" subforums, yet by what theyre saying in this thread, it was successful because it increased forum activity

deletedover 10 years

MeIody says

Please understand this. Almost no one cares about the forums--except the same people who start the drama and keep it going. Those are the only people who even use these forums. They like it. Let them have it. Like Rutab's thread earlier today that was basically a "omg the forums are horrible so mafia's going to die!" No. That's exactly why it's alive. Go to the games lobby forums etc. No one touches it. The only reason people use it is really /to start drama/ about site complaints, bugs, moderators, or setups. I mean sure, people ask questions--but no newbie goes "oh I'll post it in the forums!" They go "oh I'll join a game and see if anyone knows." Trust me, they get the answer faster that way anyways. I didn't touch the forums til a year after I joined. Nor did I need to. People in games helped me enough.

The rule on trolling...c'mon now. No. I don't even see how you would implement it because it'd be 100% feeling based. If you implement this, your "waaa my feelings are hurt!" reports are going to go up ten fold and you're going to have a /lot/ of trouble handling these in an unbiased way. And people will leave.

deletedover 10 years

Rutab says

By your guys' definition then, adding the subforums "Food and Drink" and the others wasnt a bad idea then

You were all so against it, but, it made the forums more active?

making the same people post more about mundane things isn't really an accountable increase in "activity" sorry buddy

i dunno why you're trying so hard to adopt a justrec-esque anti-circlejerk agenda but it's annoying the hell out of me

Sims

over 10 years

i know you guys want to appear productive, but accept that this idea is bad. everyone disagrees for a reason.

Miki

over 10 years

i wasnt against it :o

deletedover 10 years

just a year or so ago i could call someonoe the n-word and get away with it. now if i did i bet i'd get smacked up the wazoo, there you have it

deletedover 10 years

Sims says

Retti says

Sims says

my idea is to scrap this idea and create a topic discussing better ideas

Like?

don't play this game with me, retti

I'm asking you out of genuine concern.

MeIody

over 10 years

Because the forum will be used about as much as the Games' lobby is anyways. Like I said, no one thinks to use it in the "right/productive" way anyways. This is a social based site for a social based game. The forums will be used in a social way--good or bad. If you're looking to make all posts about mafia setups and mafia roles then why are there subforums about food and drink anyways. -.-

deletedover 10 years

Apostasy says

Do you know what else was not friendly? The Stanford Prison Experiment.

philip zimbardo is a cool dude

deletedover 10 years

By your guys' definition then, adding the subforums "Food and Drink" and the others wasnt a bad idea then

You were all so against it, but, it made the forums more active?

runwithfire

over 10 years

Nonon says

"change deleted post mechanics so that they are completely hidden from public but still viewable to mods and have the ability to be un-deleted" is a pretty sound idea to present to lucid imho

even after multiple hidden link incidents forum suspend 24h hasn't been made reversible, so thinking down this line is a good sentiment, but useless

Sims

over 10 years

Retti says

Sims says

my idea is to scrap this idea and create a topic discussing better ideas

Like?

don't play this game with me, retti

deletedover 10 years

the forums are friendlier now than they've been in 4 years.

deletedover 10 years

Do you know what else was not friendly? The Stanford Prison Experiment.

Sims

over 10 years

the forum being productive starts with the people posting in it. harsher moderation won't fix that.

deletedover 10 years

It will be dead

deletedover 10 years

Sims says

my idea is to scrap this idea and create a topic discussing better ideas

Like?

deletedover 10 years

Someone should probably tackle both of Melody's points before they detract from the stronger arguments in favor of "No"

deletedover 10 years

actually, points 4 is OK but it has to be different than suggested. people waltzing in to threads with the clear intention of disrupting discussion or hurting feelings should get the zap, even if it's not necessarily """harassment"" or hateful comments

runwithfire

over 10 years

Rutab says

It's a bad idea to let users see deleted posts because they were deleted for a reason

It's like, if there was mod sensitive information leaked, and it was deleted, users could still see it

thats a no no

but, like, if I don't like the person that posted, and their post is borderline off topic, I can just delete it so screw them!

I don't want to screenshot every post I make so I can prove that I wasn't grossly off topic when a mod abuses this

MeIody

over 10 years

THIS THREAD -- IT MUST BE A TROLL. I FEEL TROLLED. VIO RETTI NOW PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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MeIody says

Please understand this. Almost no one cares about the forums--except the same people who start the drama and keep it going. Those are the only people who even use these forums. They like it. Let them have it. Like Rutab's thread earlier today that was basically a "omg the forums are horrible so mafia's going to die!" No. That's exactly why it's alive. Go to the games lobby forums etc. No one touches it. The only reason people use it is really /to start drama/ about site complaints, bugs, moderators, or setups. I mean sure, people ask questions--but no newbie goes "oh I'll post it in the forums!" They go "oh I'll join a game and see if anyone knows." Trust me, they get the answer faster that way anyways. I didn't touch the forums til a year after I joined. Nor did I need to. People in games helped me enough.

The rule on trolling...c'mon now. No. I don't even see how you would implement it because it'd be 100% feeling based. If you implement this, your "waaa my feelings are hurt!" reports are going to go up ten fold and you're going to have a /lot/ of trouble handling these in an unbiased way. And people will leave.

Why are we letting a public forum being overrun when it could be used in a much more productive way instead of the fashion it is now?

MeIody

over 10 years

Also you're not going to stop the meanness just by making it go somewhere else. You're just channeling it elsewhere, really.

Sims

over 10 years

my idea is to scrap this idea and create a topic discussing better ideas

kylehlp123

over 10 years

that trolling rule is terrible