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Epicmafia Survey: Results

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Thanks for participating in the survey. It's very important to the mod team to get your feedback and understand what you would to see change.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1bqIQRqX77aUZ1mdHjw8QFuY-o1eJOoemAn4Yowu_Ams/viewanalytics

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Arcbell was picked on much more, and that was before adgate. He was getting 2-3 threads like yours, every week.

You can't blame google.
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No it wouldn't
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there are people who were given chances to moderate that should have but removing them now wouldn't solve anything. making me admin would solve everything
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Giga13 says


Shivv says

Did Kino account-share with Gary as a mod or not


Yes, she did


Why is she still a moderator
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Lashka says

The thing is, the community has always been like this. It's actually more friendly now than it was 2 years ago, and the censor has helped with that (like it or not). Compared to how it used to be the forums are positively tame. It will never be a friendly forum because the community just isn't a friendly bunch, and competitive mafia does not encourage friendliness.

There were still less Community vs Mod issues back then, though, despite the greater unfriendliness. Because mods were part of the community AS WELL.


It just makes it look like the community wants to pick on someone then, since before they'd pick on each other instead of the mods and now with the really stringent rules being imposed because of the google ToS, the mods end up being on the receiving end.
Giga13
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Shivv says

Did Kino account-share with Gary as a mod or not


Yes, she did
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Connor now is the time to let loose any suggestions/complaints you have about the mod team or how the site is run.
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Germatron says


Mitch says


Retti says

I mean, moderators work for the community first and foremost, but that doesn't mean that the community can't give back to us by being reasonable and not resorting to witch hunts and 100+ threads that boil down into nothing. It's stressful.


What thread


just off the top of my head, calling the mods homophobic for removing a suggestive picture


""""""""""""""suggestive"""""""""""""" lol
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I don't need sunshine and rainbows I just need to feel like the people who complain so much actually care about seeing the site get better instead of instilling the wide agreement that most people who post on the forums are just looking to start trouble.
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Yes, the admins are scared of ever giving in to community pressure because they don't want it to get out of hand like Arcbell's time.

This, again, goes back to the mods not seeing themselves as part of the community at large.
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The thing is, the community has always been like this. It's actually more friendly now than it was 2 years ago, and the censor has helped with that (like it or not). Compared to how it used to be the forums are positively tame. It will never be a friendly forum because the community just isn't a friendly bunch, and competitive mafia does not encourage friendliness.

There were still less Community vs Mod issues back then, though, despite the greater unfriendliness. Because mods were part of the community AS WELL.
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Lashka says



I know you can't do it singlehandedly, Retti, but you can try to persuade Jasper.


I think that there's a very troubling issue with admins right now that they're scared of how the community would react to someone being demodded and they want to maintain a sense of 'unity' throughout. I'm not saying it's the right ideal but I can see where he's coming from. Jasper, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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Mitch says


Retti says

I mean, moderators work for the community first and foremost, but that doesn't mean that the community can't give back to us by being reasonable and not resorting to witch hunts and 100+ threads that boil down into nothing. It's stressful.


What thread


just off the top of my head, calling the mods homophobic for removing a suggestive picture
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Retti says

I mean, moderators work for the community first and foremost, but that doesn't mean that the community can't give back to us by being reasonable and not resorting to witch hunts and 100+ threads that boil down into nothing. It's stressful.


What thread
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Did Kino account-share with Gary as a mod or not
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You can do anything right now as a moderator barring Private Messaging a girl under the age of 18 and never be demodded
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I agree that it's becaues of the Skype Group, Germ. But we've had Skype groups since Laexio's time. We just had admins who were able to separate friendship emotions, and moderation emotions. Laexio was a friendly enough guy, but he would demod you if you were a bad moderator. This was the case with every admin up until the gigantic mess that was Arcbell's time (not that he wouldn't demod people either).

The fear of the community that resulted from the mass uproar against Arcbell led the mods to entrench themselves and just become a friendship group, and no admin since has had the balls to stop that.

I know you can't do it singlehandedly, Retti, but you can try to persuade Jasper.
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I mean, moderators work for the community first and foremost, but that doesn't mean that the community can't give back to us by being reasonable and not resorting to witch hunts and 100+ threads that boil down into nothing. It's stressful.
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but yeah something i noticed was that people don't exactly say anything they felt was wrong when directly related to moderation in terms of reports which is the bigger chunk of what mods do. They just start disliking the person who gave them the vio and try to go on the forums and discredit them for doing their job.
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Shivv says


Retti says


Shivv says


Retti says

It just really bothers me when someone says "I dislike the way things are being run!" and then they don't bother to tell us what it is. That isn't to say I'm neglecting riot here or anything, I'm just saying that's the general attitude I get from most people.


The moderators have literally zero standards to be held accountable for RN due to the spinelessness in administration


A lot of mods feel backed into a corner due to how volatile the community can be towards them, when they just want to see that that the community is ultimately happy. That's the whole reason a survey was conducted.


I don't reall ythink many moderators now give a crap about the community


Then they shouldn't be a mod.
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Retti says


Shivv says


Retti says

It just really bothers me when someone says "I dislike the way things are being run!" and then they don't bother to tell us what it is. That isn't to say I'm neglecting riot here or anything, I'm just saying that's the general attitude I get from most people.


The moderators have literally zero standards to be held accountable for RN due to the spinelessness in administration


A lot of mods feel backed into a corner due to how volatile the community can be towards them, when they just want to see that that the community is ultimately happy. That's the whole reason a survey was conducted.


I don't reall ythink many moderators now give a crap about the community
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Lashka says


Retti says


Shivv says


Retti says

It just really bothers me when someone says "I dislike the way things are being run!" and then they don't bother to tell us what it is. That isn't to say I'm neglecting riot here or anything, I'm just saying that's the general attitude I get from most people.


The moderators have literally zero standards to be held accountable for RN due to the spinelessness in administration


A lot of mods feel backed into a corner due to how volatile the community can be towards them, when they just want to see that they're ultimately happy. That's the whole reason a survey was conducted.


That's because those moderators see themselves as part of the mod friendship group more than they see themselves as part of the community.


I won't disagree with you that it isn't an issue but nothing I myself can do, though I really do appreciate the feedback. Really.
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citrus says

there's probably like 2 or 3 cloudminnions


I'm not talking about report-countwise, though there are 3 of them.

I'm talking about under the protection so nothing can ever be done about them.
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why did lucid protect cloud
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Lashka says

but because the mod team is now more friendship group than moderation group, it gets made into one.


this is probably true and probably because of the creation of the skype group.

I think the skype group does more good than harm though