I'm going to try and summarize the thoughts that have been swirling in my head for the past couple of months.
The mods are treated in the most disrespectful and toxic way that is completely unjustified. It amazes me how often I feel that the people who willingly take care of complaints and try (i say this heavily) to manage 60 reports on a normal basis somehow find the time and energy to put up with someone cussing them out or demanded they be demodded over a trivial matter such as a report outcome. I'm not saying that criticism isn't valid or that you shouldn't question some decisions, but the least you can do is be courteous. There was a reason laexio was so admired and it was that he made sure that the needs of the mods came before the needs of the players, because in reality, the mods are the backbone of the community. I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. It is why the pool of mods is so staggeringly low.
The forums do not need to be moderated heavily, they serve a niche and are irrelevant to more than a quarter of the playerbase. The IC rule is broken and stupid. Google, or lucid for that matter, does not care about a couple of asteriks on the screen. They're a complete non-issue and it baffles me in the times I've been just a player that I've seen unneeded measures taken to control 'chaos' going on in the forums. The best solution is to let things die out because people get bored of hearing themselves talk, or posting badly for that matter.
The report system is abused and is inherently flawed. There is no reason for mods have to deal with 70-80 reports in a day. That is not a problem with the mods, that's a problem with the community. I've never been on a site where I've seen such a staggeringly high number of complaints in a single day. It sucks that things will always stay like this, but I bring this back to my original paragraph to the mods, and that you really do not give them the credit they deserve.
I want to condense this all and say this is my formal and public resignation from modding. These couple past months as a mod have been pure hell and I have lost all motivation and desire to go further. I enjoyed helping the community and doing my best to see to it that I did what I felt was right, but the strain is not worth it and I feel that all that effort I am putting into epicmafia modding could be put to better use. I had a goal of one day possibly being admin, but I don't think that is what I want or need to do for that matter.
later
deletedover 10 years
Do you have any evidence to support that I'm not a decent human being, or are you just assuming that because I disagree with you and actually have a legitimate point?
deletedover 10 years
Requoting specifically for Smorlicious to see.
deletedover 10 years
You know what also is a volunteer service? Being a good person. Maybe you should try to do that sometime in the future if you're arguing that because modding is a 'volunteer service' that your incoherent rambling of a post is good again.
deletedover 10 years
like riot said earlier, the community was more toxic (with no IC rule) and had more reports (with all that report-scrounging)
deletedover 10 years
aah ok dude, but how was it different from being a mod that other time you were a mod, what made you want to be a mod again?
Oh cool i missed literally nothing important while i slept, save for satan's gifs of attractive woman whose name i must learn
deletedover 10 years
shut up abc
deletedover 10 years
"I've quit being a mod, now I can insult the mods comparing them to janitors even though in my resignation thread I just spoke about how the community is unfair to mods"
deletedover 10 years
That post was at smor by the way. I don't care what he thinks of me as a mod because it will never impact anything, but I do care that my message is getting across somehow. This thread wasn't me bellyaching about my own experience, it was me giving my perspective of what I saw and what I've seen. When I said it was 'pure hell' for me, it's because my personal motivation had been shot due to the reasons I stated in this thread, not because people were lambasting me personally. To my surprise, I was generally well-recieved as my time as a mod and basically you can eat me
deletedover 10 years
lol good one, never seen anyone compare mods to janitors before.
deletedover 10 years
"'yeah doing 70-80; reports is apart of the job' then you clearly don't understand that doing 70-80 reports a day takes out of your free time, and the fact you are using that free time without gaining anything out of it."
Did you not understand this when you first applied for mod, or what?
AS READ FROM THE MODERATOR APPLICATION FORUM
"Moderators are held to a higher standard than regular users, both in games and in the forums. Being a Moderator is not only a large time commitment, it can also be a thankless job. Despite this, are you interested and committed to take on a moderation role at EpicMafia?""
No one is forcing anyone to be a mod - it's a volunteer position. Most people who are accepted as a Moderator know what they are getting into. Retti, what is a Moderators job on a gaming website if it isn't to help keep order?
deletedover 10 years
if only you knew how pedestrian of a trait it is to put "i love to read reports in my free time" on your mod app
deletedover 10 years
The only thing I am going to say here is that if you (the community) feel like something is wrong, tell us constructively. If you think we are "toxic" then tell us what you think we did wrong and we will talk through it. We are not here to work against you. We cannot attempt to change anything if all of the complaints are baseless insults. We will take the time to walk through with you our reasoning if you just ask.
deletedover 10 years
some people find it fun reading reports and making decisions. some see modding as a hobby ^_^
deletedover 10 years
talk about entitlement eh
deletedover 10 years
You fail to understand the aspects of modding because you don't connect with the community in a way that would make you in the first place. If you're sitting here and trying to say 'yeah doing 70-80; reports is apart of the job' then you clearly don't understand that doing 70-80 reports a day takes out of your free time, and the fact you are using that free time without gaining anything out of it. I'm the first person who gets that in the end that the mods are glorified janitors, but your post is not insensitive to me, it's insensitive to the mods in general because you're holding them to a stupidly high standard. They're not just report machines and people who refund your losses, they're human beings and that's the point I was making in this thread, but you're using this chance to take a verbal dump on me because I GRSed out of your game as a joke.
'I don't hate the mods they're great but they should put up with everything I do because LOL it's their job'
deletedover 10 years
lol good meme
deletedover 10 years
smor has a point about "HANDLING 70-80 REPORTS IS PART OF THE JOB" apart from it not being a job.
smor you don't know what you're talking about. shut up
deletedover 10 years
agreed. the dude has been a mod before he knows how the community is, why go back to modding and just complain again. there will always be trolls and toxic people in the community, signing up to be a mod you shoulda known what u were getting urself into.
imo refund requesting for red hearts should be implemented again and the mods should just work harder. there are some people on this site who are willing to do way more than 60 reports daily.
deletedover 10 years
frankly, i think you should watch trigun, shacky.
deletedover 10 years
maybe if the mods weren't toxic they wouldn't be treated so bad, it's like they try to do a bad job on purpose lol. it's frustrating and unnerving that the mods suck so much. the pool of mods is so staggeringly low because only circlejerkers get modded.
well it was fun reading through this thread watching retti and justrec both have meltdowns.
