Epicmafia

A word

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I'm going to try and summarize the thoughts that have been swirling in my head for the past couple of months.

The mods are treated in the most disrespectful and toxic way that is completely unjustified. It amazes me how often I feel that the people who willingly take care of complaints and try (i say this heavily) to manage 60 reports on a normal basis somehow find the time and energy to put up with someone cussing them out or demanded they be demodded over a trivial matter such as a report outcome. I'm not saying that criticism isn't valid or that you shouldn't question some decisions, but the least you can do is be courteous. There was a reason laexio was so admired and it was that he made sure that the needs of the mods came before the needs of the players, because in reality, the mods are the backbone of the community. I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. It is why the pool of mods is so staggeringly low.

The forums do not need to be moderated heavily, they serve a niche and are irrelevant to more than a quarter of the playerbase. The IC rule is broken and stupid. Google, or lucid for that matter, does not care about a couple of asteriks on the screen. They're a complete non-issue and it baffles me in the times I've been just a player that I've seen unneeded measures taken to control 'chaos' going on in the forums. The best solution is to let things die out because people get bored of hearing themselves talk, or posting badly for that matter.

The report system is abused and is inherently flawed. There is no reason for mods have to deal with 70-80 reports in a day. That is not a problem with the mods, that's a problem with the community. I've never been on a site where I've seen such a staggeringly high number of complaints in a single day. It sucks that things will always stay like this, but I bring this back to my original paragraph to the mods, and that you really do not give them the credit they deserve.

I want to condense this all and say this is my formal and public resignation from modding. These couple past months as a mod have been pure hell and I have lost all motivation and desire to go further. I enjoyed helping the community and doing my best to see to it that I did what I felt was right, but the strain is not worth it and I feel that all that effort I am putting into epicmafia modding could be put to better use. I had a goal of one day possibly being admin, but I don't think that is what I want or need to do for that matter.

later

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Rutab says

Smorlicious says

As I can see from the quote, I didn't neglect what you said, I responded to your slander against me.

As for your forum, I get why you posted, but as a normal player, I feel the need to defend the community you say makes the moderators role "so unbearable/miserable"

To be fair, whether you believe it or not the community treats us like poop. It's not "unbearable" because I feel like that's too strong of a word to use, but it is definitely very strong when our only intentions are to better the community. There is a difference in disagreement and blatant insults. You are defending the community that is literally ungrateful and undeniably horrid towards the staff. To those who take the time to respect the effort of the job (not necessarily agreeing with out verdicts and actions), I thank you greatly.

I know that this is a problem, and I know it must suck for the mods. And this can be an issue to set aside for a later discussion on how to resolve this. The reason why I'm asking these questions because its kind of urking to hear someone like Retti, who doesn't show a history of respecting players on the Forums, to complain that he doesn't get respected as a mod.

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Today's Epicmafia Headlines: 20y/o manbaby former mod cries about the community on an online ruby mafia site

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yeah mods, grow up. take the insults, man up

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People slander any person in any position of power because they are human and succumb to poor decisions eventually. Grow up.

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maybe the community doesn't treat u lot like poop and its just one person on a bunch of alts, did you ever think of that?

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Smorlicious says

Jackhammer says

Smorlicious says

I know the community bashes mods. I openly acknowledge and admit it. And it indeed is a problem.

All I am asking here, is what did Retti Expect when he became mod? So far he's complaining about having to take time out of his free time to do reports and not being liked by people. What did Retti think modding for this community was going to be?

He's not complaining about doing the reports he's complaining about the moderators take for doing it.

And again, did he not know this going into it, or what?

Is that even relevant? His point here is clearly "stop giving moderators crap". Regardless of whether or not he did know he's trying to put a stop to it.

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Smorlicious says

As I can see from the quote, I didn't neglect what you said, I responded to your slander against me.

As for your forum, I get why you posted, but as a normal player, I feel the need to defend the community you say makes the moderators role "so unbearable/miserable"

To be fair, whether you believe it or not the community treats us like poop. It's not "unbearable" because I feel like that's too strong of a word to use, but it is definitely very strong when our only intentions are to better the community. There is a difference in disagreement and blatant insults. You are defending the community that is literally ungrateful and undeniably horrid towards the staff. To those who take the time to respect the effort of the job (not necessarily agreeing with out verdicts and actions), I thank you greatly.

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well dude you see tumblr is a place to post about how your feeling or whatever, the epicmafia forum is a place to own one another

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Niakan says

Jackhammer says

Nah, retti isn't to blame here. The community does indeed tend to treat moderators like crap whether you're willing to admit it or not, smorlicious. Just take a good look at the sheer amount of "[X] Should be demodded because they gave me a vio" thread. Now, [X]'s duty is to handle reports as fairly as he or she can. He or she may be a mod, but they remain HUMAN and they are also still volunteering to do this out of their free time. We need to change our attitude towards mods.

Props, Retti dude.

retti quit, nothin wrong with that, albeit him crying on the forums about the community is a joke (like go blog on tumblr about that dude!!). if the vio they gave was fair then they should just man up and not care, if it was unfair well then they should be demodded.

Yeah Retti go be honest on tumblr or something the community's too dumb to care about your genuine opinion

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he's just on his period now, in a few months or even weeks he'll be wanting to mod again

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Smorlicious says

Jackhammer says

Smorlicious says

I know the community bashes mods. I openly acknowledge and admit it. And it indeed is a problem.

All I am asking here, is what did Retti Expect when he became mod? So far he's complaining about having to take time out of his free time to do reports and not being liked by people. What did Retti think modding for this community was going to be?

He's not complaining about doing the reports he's complaining about the moderators take for doing it.

And again, did he not know this going into it, or what?

he clearly knew he's been a mod before and the community was much worse then, he's arguing for the sake of arguing.

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This thread blows.

Satan

over 10 years

god doesn't exist

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Jackhammer says

Smorlicious says

I know the community bashes mods. I openly acknowledge and admit it. And it indeed is a problem.

All I am asking here, is what did Retti Expect when he became mod? So far he's complaining about having to take time out of his free time to do reports and not being liked by people. What did Retti think modding for this community was going to be?

He's not complaining about doing the reports he's complaining about the moderators take for doing it.

And again, did he not know this going into it, or what?

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Smorlicious says

I know the community bashes mods. I openly acknowledge and admit it. And it indeed is a problem.

All I am asking here, is what did Retti Expect when he became mod? So far he's complaining about having to take time out of his free time to do reports and not being liked by people. What did Retti think modding for this community was going to be?

He's not complaining about doing the reports he's complaining about the **** moderators take for doing it.

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Jackhammer says

Nah, retti isn't to blame here. The community does indeed tend to treat moderators like crap whether you're willing to admit it or not, smorlicious. Just take a good look at the sheer amount of "[X] Should be demodded because they gave me a vio" thread. Now, [X]'s duty is to handle reports as fairly as he or she can. He or she may be a mod, but they remain HUMAN and they are also still volunteering to do this out of their free time. We need to change our attitude towards mods.

Props, Retti dude.

retti quit, nothin wrong with that, albeit him crying on the forums about the community is a joke (like go blog on tumblr about that dude!!). if the vio they gave was fair then they should just man up and not care, if it was unfair well then they should be demodded.

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thanks for reading my op and understanding what i was trying to say, jackhammer

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I know the community bashes mods. I openly acknowledge and admit it. And it indeed is a problem.

All I am asking here, is what did Retti Expect when he became mod? So far he's complaining about having to take time out of his free time to do reports and not being liked by people. What did Retti think modding for this community was going to be?

His only response is to bash me.

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Nah, retti isn't to blame here. The community does indeed tend to treat moderators like crap whether you're willing to admit it or not, smorlicious. Just take a good look at the sheer amount of "[X] Should be demodded because they gave me a vio" thread. Now, [X]'s duty is to handle reports as fairly as he or she can. He or she may be a mod, but they remain HUMAN and they are also still volunteering to do this out of their free time. We need to change our attitude towards mods.

Props, Retti dude.

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Niakan says

damn i need a score of 500 to upvote!!

failure thy name is niakan

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damn i need a score of 500 to upvote!!

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thanks for continuing to bump my thread, i am appreciating the publicity pal

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upvote this post if you're reading this thread

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"modding takes up a lot of my free time" ya know what else takes up free time fella, crap-posting and whining about how modding sucks

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retti says

why isn't abc banned yet

how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to be accused of being someone else with no evidence :O