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deletedover 10 years

I'm going to try and summarize the thoughts that have been swirling in my head for the past couple of months.

The mods are treated in the most disrespectful and toxic way that is completely unjustified. It amazes me how often I feel that the people who willingly take care of complaints and try (i say this heavily) to manage 60 reports on a normal basis somehow find the time and energy to put up with someone cussing them out or demanded they be demodded over a trivial matter such as a report outcome. I'm not saying that criticism isn't valid or that you shouldn't question some decisions, but the least you can do is be courteous. There was a reason laexio was so admired and it was that he made sure that the needs of the mods came before the needs of the players, because in reality, the mods are the backbone of the community. I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. It is why the pool of mods is so staggeringly low.

The forums do not need to be moderated heavily, they serve a niche and are irrelevant to more than a quarter of the playerbase. The IC rule is broken and stupid. Google, or lucid for that matter, does not care about a couple of asteriks on the screen. They're a complete non-issue and it baffles me in the times I've been just a player that I've seen unneeded measures taken to control 'chaos' going on in the forums. The best solution is to let things die out because people get bored of hearing themselves talk, or posting badly for that matter.

The report system is abused and is inherently flawed. There is no reason for mods have to deal with 70-80 reports in a day. That is not a problem with the mods, that's a problem with the community. I've never been on a site where I've seen such a staggeringly high number of complaints in a single day. It sucks that things will always stay like this, but I bring this back to my original paragraph to the mods, and that you really do not give them the credit they deserve.

I want to condense this all and say this is my formal and public resignation from modding. These couple past months as a mod have been pure hell and I have lost all motivation and desire to go further. I enjoyed helping the community and doing my best to see to it that I did what I felt was right, but the strain is not worth it and I feel that all that effort I am putting into epicmafia modding could be put to better use. I had a goal of one day possibly being admin, but I don't think that is what I want or need to do for that matter.

later

Edark
over 10 years
why is freaking drjack back
Satan
over 10 years

justrec says

itt: retti just now feeling the toxicity of the community because it's finally directed toward him and it hurt his feelings


itt: justrec is still crying from not being included in circlejerks


he is the type of person to join one of those partyyyyy games and want to actually play the game
deletedover 10 years
Lmao
justrec
over 10 years
itt: retti just now feeling the toxicity of the community because it's finally directed toward him and it hurt his feelings
gistofeverything
over 10 years

Niakan says

Why are you still posting on the forums


Who are you to know who I am o.o
xela
over 10 years
deletedover 10 years

retti says

why isn't abc banned yet




what u talkin about, he's been banned for over 2 years
deletedover 10 years
Why are you still posting on the forums
gistofeverything
over 10 years
Stahhhhhhp
gistofeverything
over 10 years
Why are people still posting in this thread
deletedover 10 years
ahhh you're giving retti a treat after all his sulking today, that is very nice of you bear!!
deletedover 10 years

Niakan says

the real issue: the mods suck


agreed.

anyway me and retti are going to universal studios now so bye.
deletedover 10 years
the real issue: the mods suck
deletedover 10 years
Thank you bear
deletedover 10 years
the issue is not harassment, nor is it complaints in general. it's that people go wild in one complaint and make it seem as though getting 1 (one) vio wrong on a mafia website that is volunteer moderated is a day-ruiner.
deletedover 10 years

Niakan says


Jackhammer says


Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


Which is not solving the problem. Punishing a theif for stealing isn't the same as telling people to stop stealing.


It does solve the problem, the same way you jail rapists/killers. Or, how do you propose stopping this "problem"? by telling them not to do it again? lmao



Niakan says


Jackhammer says


Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


Which is not solving the problem. Punishing a theif for stealing isn't the same as telling people to stop stealing.


It does solve the problem, the same way you jail rapists/killers. Or, how do you propose stopping this "problem"? by telling them not to do it again? lmao


No, that's not what I meant. I meant they're two different things, I didn't question the difference between how effective they were
deletedover 10 years

Niakan says


Slow says


Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


no they won't


oh yh my bad, coz teh mods suck lol!!!


no, it's that no one's going to get harassment based on one thread in complaints which is typically the case.
deletedover 10 years

Jackhammer says


Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


Which is not solving the problem. Punishing a theif for stealing isn't the same as telling people to stop stealing.


It does solve the problem, the same way you jail rapists/killers. Or, how do you propose stopping this "problem"? by telling them not to do it again? lmao
ediz12
over 10 years

Jackhammer says

I take it that what you're implying is that people are simply unable to think morally about what they do unless they're being enforced not to do it. I suppose that's quite the cynical thought albeit somewhat accurate to this site's community. Not everyone's capable of being nice when they're nor enforced to do so, but you're still entitled to ask them to.


Many people here see internet as a way to express their "speech", and they'll abuse this as long as there are no rules on this, regardless if it's thought morally or not. Most of these couldn't even dare to insult or cause problems in a public place because they know they'll either be fined or stuff. At least here you'd get into trouble for it. It's common sense.

EM is really relaxed on harassing people compared to many gaming sites out here, it can be really abused easily and get out of your way.

Long story short, the only solution to make people nicer is putting a rule about it and actually sanctioning any people who are trying to cause a fuss on purpose or attack people, whether it is strongly or not. Warnings would be encouraged as well. If there won't be a rule for it, then you have to cope with sarcastic and rude people here and complaining about it will bring you nothing.
deletedover 10 years

Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


Which is not solving the problem. Punishing a theif for stealing isn't the same as telling people to stop stealing.
deletedover 10 years
Lmao.
deletedover 10 years

Slow says


Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


no they won't


oh yh my bad, coz teh mods suck lol!!!
deletedover 10 years

Niakan says


Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"


no they won't
deletedover 10 years

Jackhammer says

[ I never said they did not. They're also entitled to whine as long as they don't get obscene or directly harass retti or any other moderator. I haven't seen any form of obscenity from retti in his post.


if someone directly harasses him they'll be violated for the rule "harassment"
deletedover 10 years

Smorlicious says


retti says


Smorlicious says

@Retti

Retti, no matter what site though, there will always be the idiot radicals who think everyone else running things is stupid and they are the only ones with a right opinion. :/ It's a shame that you resigned from the position just because of that. If it was the right decision for you and you are happy with it, that's great, and I hope you enjoy em as a regular player. I'm sorry people were so mean to you that you felt resigning would relieve you. But I just think that no matter what leadership position you're in, whether your the president or a moderator, you're going to get flack from someone.


Nobody was mean to me. My resigning was not based on how people were personally treating me, rather it was just something I wanted to do. I was burning out on doing reports as they're meticulous and boring. It was simply a matter of motivation.

I would honestly say I thought about sticking around as a mod because people were being so supportive of me. I've had nothing but good praises as my time as a mod and I liked the feeling, but I didn't want my modding to be just some sort of achievement that I could show off. I want to mod when I actually have the time and truly want to, and I'm not sure if that will ever happen again if the community doesn't change their outlook towards mods.


If this was the real reason, why not just say this instead?


This will be the third time now that I tell you that this thread wasn't about my personal experiences.