Look, I'm not going to make a big stink over this but I really think this game should be refunded https://epicmafia.com/report/111846 . I think the mods made a wrong decision. It happens sometimes, I get it. He literally blew autowin, and I just don't think it's fair that if you earn a win for the town and someone messes it up by refusing to pay attention, you don't get your win and you have to play again. It's even more unfair when you actually get a loss instead.
well i think quickhammering in a threeway without reading after he has sufficient evidence that would suggest he should reread implies that he didn't try.
Can you make the case that he didn't try, though, Cantankerous?
deletedover 10 years
i don't really know why people assume apuleio tried really hard in that threeway when he basically just asked for a cross and the cop should've been confirmed by his guilty being on vancy and not the original guiser.
but i didn't really read the fiveway so maybe he tried there
He talked it over and trusted Apee. He didn't realize it was autowin. I'm not in support of punishing someone legitimately playing actively and just messing up and not realizing things.
We've never refunded it for this type before, we cannot start a new precedent now unless the rules are changed.
deletedover 10 years
Not that he even needed to remember it. All he needed to do was reread the game for literally 30 seconds.
deletedover 10 years
The difference, carly, is that this was autowin. There was no ambiguity as to who should have won this game. He did not lose because he "played badly". He lost because he hammered in 2 minutes without reading and considered nothing, and was too daft to remember an important detail like who was cop.
The ISP rule was literally made so that if someone managed to screw up autowin via forgetting reports or other means that it could be refunded.
That's what the rule was literally made for.
Adsense's nuked brown's huge argument thread so I can't link that, but do I need to? Pretty positive that there's enough older players around to remember the whole ordeal.
deletedover 10 years
But he didn't really put forth the effort. It was autowin. I think if you put in any effort in autowin, you will win. I mean all he had to do was go back and read his night meeting to win. That right there is proof that he hammered without reading.
I don't believe in refunding games like that because in other games where teammates play badly you must accept the loss, even if it wasn't your fault at all. At least here we can punish throwing the game and not putting for the effort, but yeah.
I've done similar things--forgetting important details--while playing as hard as I could. You can't punish bad play, only bad intent or not putting forth the effort. If he puts forth the effort and fails, oh well. You win some you lose some.
