somebody tell me im wrong

denialabout 10 years ago

cause im not convinced

https://epicmafia.com/report/185580

so now i can effectively refuse to self every game and if the clear decides to get me bwed I can report him for grudge lynching?

i suppose you can argue that it gets a violation because he lynched two people here; but i really can't see the lynches were both based off grudge reading the d1

also, i really don't agree with "With lines like "even if you're doc you're still being voted" they show clear intent to throw the game.". are you going to give a vio to somebody thats stubborn that says something like "i dont care if you're cop im lynching you" if the cop did something stupid and was bwed on?

ChosenOneabout 10 years ago
my definition of a grudgelynch/kill is killing without any reason. I had a reason, It was enough for me to warrant a lynch. Day 2 i outted the two groups of mafia/towns. I lynched in one. FYI this is me writing without re-reading the game, so there may be some inaccuracy.
If i recall correctly, i thought maldito was mafia trying to look town by defending lazy who turned to be a villager.
Devanteabout 10 years ago
there's no such thing as obvious town in a game where nothing is obvious
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
I understand your point, denial. If anything I think Maldito's is more of a grudge lynch than mine because he was obvious town for giving reasons. But, like I said I see your point.
denialabout 10 years ago
lazy
groundhogday
like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run
oh ya we cheat in modding too not just games. why isn't anyone talking about the actual mod who gave the vio? and the other mod who thought it was at least a note?? lol
i mean its really only ian thats hounding you. i can see why people think it'd be a grudge lynch, so im not really going to call out every mod that got it "wrong", i just wanted to explain why this isnt and shouldnt be ruled as a grudge lynch

your response seems to imply you still think its a grudge lynch, so i wanted to explain that even if he did lynch you based solely off not selfing, we shouldn't be ruling that as grudge lynching because it'd be ridiculous what people could report for
groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
because they read the game

why are you deflecting blame, don't you still think he was throwing
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run
oh ya we cheat in modding too not just games. why isn't anyone talking about the actual mod who gave the vio? and the other mod who thought it was at least a note?? lol
dazeldafreakabout 10 years ago
moon
trial mod Ian
Finally the true purpose of the trial mod system has been realized.
MaPiYaabout 10 years ago
so many people talking about me and i was out watching my friend graduate over the weekend. Shout out to Denial for helping me appeal. I never have attempted an appeal before (technically i still havent).
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moonabout 10 years ago
trial mod Ian
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Edarkabout 10 years ago
Calvin
yeah you weren't loud
You wouldnt know
deleteddeletedabout 10 years ago
yeah you weren't loud
Edarkabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
moon
mod Ian already
they said no)):
I was quite for you getting modded
denialabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run
that definitely was mean
jackabout 10 years ago
i'll mod if ian mods
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groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
mr smith isn't going to washington this time around
moonabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run
it's not like this isn't true tho
moonabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
i think it's because i am mean on the forums sometimes
being right about the rules and bad mods isn't mean
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groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
like when i said gerry makes bullsh*t reports and mori confirmed sustains them without reading the game to give gerry an ogi advantage in his trophy run
groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
i think it's because i am mean on the forums sometimes
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moonabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
moon
mod Ian already
they said no)):
why not?? the person you leaked to is modded so I don't see the problem
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groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
moon
mod Ian already
they said no)):
denialabout 10 years ago
groundhogday
he doesn't actually think it's gt. that's why he isn't trying to make his point. it's part of his attempt to win trophies by making people afraid to lynch him
next level trophy running
moonabout 10 years ago
mod Ian already
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groundhogdayabout 10 years ago
he doesn't actually think it's gt. that's why he isn't trying to make his point. it's part of his attempt to win trophies by making people afraid to lynch him
denialabout 10 years ago
lazy
groundhogday
lazy
it wasnt refunded. but he only lynched maldito because he kept unvoting and didnt self IMO
why haven't you tried to learn the rules after all this time you've been a mod for
i'm just here to give you HC vios.

ps: it's blatant he only lynched us not cause he fos us, but because we refused to self.
ok so lets imagine this is true (even though not self voting is grounds for a fos), are you now going to say that lynching somebody because they didnt self is deemed a grudge lynch?

why does this deserve a violation? because he lynched two people and not just one? can you reread the game and tell me that a player wouldnt be confused as to what motivation maldito had be voting the clear on day 1 and telling the doc to not heal him?

the main reason i'm asking is because you can not say that somebody not selfing isnt suspicious when you're acting as the clear trying to hammer combined with the fact that ruling this as grudge lynching actually sets a terrible precedent.

so what if he didn't fos you? can I as mafia (lets say im even townread and not fosed by the clear) refuse to self vote and then report him for grudge lynching if the clear then decides to bw me for not selfing?

bottom line is its ridiculous to say this is grudge lynching because not everyone thinks alike. to some user, not selfing and not being listened to may be his #1 scumtell that gets autolynched