https://epicmafia.com/report/185529

can we not do this?, i see people "grudging" all the time on people that won't self. do i think thats stupid? yes. is it grudging? a little bit, but you're giving them every reason to lynch you because you are not giving them what the clear wants, and now suddenly thats the biggest red flag in their mind of who mafia is

not selfing is a game action that made him fos lazy. he still asked lazy to self and was told "no im not selfing if you're not gonna ask for claims" which mapiya was trying to avoid because he thought maf would fish doc

honestly, although i don't blame lazys reaction because anyone would be pissed for being voted for a stupid reason, it's not like he gave town any reason to not lynch him. most of his day consisted of "unvote im town" rather than "hey lets vote this person they're actually mafia because blah"

malditos lynch was a 50/50 which is meh, mapiyas probably on tilt for being 'forced' to lynch a town and then losing doc. i mean maldito even voted the cop and told the doc to not be on him d1 when lazy was being lynched

anyways in conclusion: just reread d1. their lynches were not solely based off of grudges. some things just put you off so much that you get stuck in a mind frame of "this person has to be mafia because town should not be doing this"

i don't like pushing this for GT because

1. i don't like the reasoning used to support it. lazy gave him every right to fos him by unvoting and forcing mapiya to make somebody claim before they lynched somebody or he wouldnt self

2. i don't really think theres intent to lose here and they weren't grudge lynches rereading the older reports on mapiya. looks like they're pretty black/white on situations and if you do something he deems irredeemable as a town, you are going to get lynched

ill argue more if needed