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somebody tell me im wrong

over 8 years

cause im not convinced

https://epicmafia.com/report/185580

so now i can effectively refuse to self every game and if the clear decides to get me bwed I can report him for grudge lynching?

i suppose you can argue that it gets a violation because he lynched two people here; but i really can't see the lynches were both based off grudge reading the d1

also, i really don't agree with "With lines like "even if you're doc you're still being voted" they show clear intent to throw the game.". are you going to give a vio to somebody thats stubborn that says something like "i dont care if you're cop im lynching you" if the cop did something stupid and was bwed on?

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ur wrong
over 8 years
Lazy, do you believe pranay7744 is a chronic game tosser?
over 8 years
Maybe he fosd you for refusing to self? Lmao
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groundhogday says


lazy says

it wasnt refunded. but he only lynched maldito because he kept unvoting and didnt self IMO


why haven't you tried to learn the rules after all this time you've been a mod for


i'm just here to give you HC vios.

ps: it's blatant he only lynched us not cause he fos us, but because we refused to self.
over 8 years
Okay, I read that game over and over again. It looked to me like MapIya lynched lazy and Maldito because they went against him, not because he FoSed them. He never said a good reason for voting Maldito and admitted to voting randomly. I admit it's somewhat borderline but his motivations for lynching lazy did not seem legitimate to me.


Lmao
over 8 years

lazy says

it wasnt refunded. but he only lynched maldito because he kept unvoting and didnt self IMO


why haven't you tried to learn the rules after all this time you've been a mod for
over 8 years

apollo says

also shoutout to mori for handling an appeal directly linked to gerry, your refined objectivity is clearly being displayed in your incorrect verdict of the report.


the verdict she gave actually shows she didn't read the game and sustained it entirely off of what he said
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it wasnt refunded. but he only lynched maldito because he kept unvoting and didnt self IMO
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also shoutout to mori for handling an appeal directly linked to gerry, your refined objectivity is clearly being displayed in your incorrect verdict of the report.
over 8 years
?
over 8 years
it was actually refunded
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Esp if the clear is an idiot.
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fantastic work petri et all
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report in the OP should never have been refunded.
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Lmfao not self voting is not throwing
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some very misinformed opinions ITT
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refusing to self for a clear is not gamethrowing
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Forrest says

lynching someone for the sole reason of them refusing to self is definitely reasonable lol


No, it isn't.

JM123 says

IMO the players that refuse to self for a clear are the ones gamethrowing, not the other way around.


No, they're not, they're playing optimally.
over 8 years

Satan says

2 pages and no one even did what he wanted...

you're wrong


izzy told me earlier so now that i've been told twice now im convinced. go ahead and revert that overturn
over 8 years
probably a good idea to stop letting gerry make reports while he's a mod
over 8 years
We've come to the conclusion that there is not enough evidence based on the user in question and the game that was played to support the original grudge-lynching verdict. We also believe that the original verdict would set a dangerous precedent in competitive mafia; we do not want players to be afraid of lynching their scumreads lest they get reported for grudge voting.

If MaPiYa had a rocky history with lazy/Maldito and showed clearly that he was going to lynch them unconditionally, then the original verdict would have held. In this case, however, there is not enough evidence to argue that this was his intent.

As a reminder to everyone: treating your fellow players respectfully in the first place eliminates the roots behind this kind of problem.
over 8 years

Satan says

2 pages and no one even did what he wanted...

you're wrong


i explictly told him he was wrong. its not grudge voting if someone votes you because you don't give them hammer, its just bad play
over 8 years
It's not gt if he didn't express that he was lynching town because town didn't self vote. Normally the guy who doesn't self for me isn't town. Only maf is afraid of letting me hammer. But if some noob is hammering then I never self vote.
over 8 years

jack says

which he didn't, fwiw. not once did map say "i don't care if you're town you're getting lynched." he lynched him because lazy wouldn't cooperate which is a move that i've seen pulled countless times by clears


have they pulled it to lynch gerry the moderator though
over 8 years
2 pages and no one even did what he wanted...

you're wrong