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"Catfishing" alts and stuff.

about 6 years

Watching the video D3X posted where we found lailai, it reminded me of the alts that I used to bypass my suspension on Orienteering (for claiming that I hacked the site when it was really lailai). these depictions of people who weren't who they said they were, these really made me feel bad about what I have done in the past. But after a second of thinking about it, I realize that I don't think I did total wrong.

DreamGate was supposed to represent a female who had been born in a hostile environment, emigrated to the States from Spain at age 6, and was sexually abused during high school, and then fixed her stuff, got into college, and then declared she was a lesbian. She was born in Barcelona, Spain to a couple, where the mother was the father's sex slave. The mother had no money on her own, and both Maria ("DreamGate's" first name) and the mother had been abused. Once Maria was 6, someone randomly slipped the mother plane tickets to the United States, and so Maria and the mother were able to immigrate from Spain to New York, and then New Orleans, where they stayed in Lafayette, LA. She lived in a ghetto neighborhood, but in early high school, a senior boy approached her, and they hooked up. Maria started playing Volleyball in high school, and it kept her safe from the ghetto. But she was called to her boyfriend's house once, but she came in and saw her bf and three other boys, who instantly beat her and gang- her. They all got arrested after, but she was scarred for life. She realized that through all of her experiences, she didn't think she would ever have the gall to put her trust in a man again, and in college, she outed herself as lesbian. I have told people about this in stories all throughout the time the account worked, and it kinda got people's attention. It got a lot of feedback, and it even got people to open up about childhood complications, as well as sharing their own stories of abuse/sexual abuse.

Lionel was supposed to represent a breaking of stereotypes, as well as proof that deep down, we all have our sad stories and emotions. His story was that he was a Half-Mexican, Half-Welsh 2nd-gen American who started working out in High School. He had a girlfriend who had mutual love for him since elementary school, but her parents didn't like Lionel. Her family moved to a new area in his senior year, thus breaking them up. He got a job at a gym and started working out like crazy so he could get into the Naval Academy (He was "23" in this account, so he was close to the maximum application age). He also studied web design/development in his free time. Soon after he graduated, he got a job as a mechanic/web maintenance person at that particular gym he worked at. And one night, I posted an update in a few games with people like soda (I remember his reaction the most), where I said that I was driving home from work and I saw a car crash that happened to be nonfatal for one vehicle, but not the other car which had his ex in it (y'know the one from before). Yeah, so, I made an EM family to kind of see who else was misunderstood as a person. They gave me life stories and I gave them decent advice. I had helped somebody with workout tips by mixing my ROTC workouts with XC workouts. People shared their reactions of losing loved ones in the worst way possible (in fact, around the time before I got banned when I was caught multiaccounting, I found out my childhood best friend died in a self-caused action). People have shared experiences of where they had a dream, but waited just too long to follow it, and now they are living in a mutilated shell of a life.

Believe it or not, when I used those accounts and tried to tell the stories, it actually felt really weird to just make up a person who have had experiences way outside of my own. At first, I was trying to appear as someone other than DatGuiser to the mods, but then it just snowballed into telling the tales that haven't been spoken, which encouraged people to speak up about their experiences, even including the people who have perpetrated those terrible actions.

This thread's OP's purpose is to help understand the honest intention of the psychopathic train that I rode for not only my benefit, but for others as well. This forum is to share anything you thought about while reading this: experiences in my stories similar to ones you have lived through, sharing if you believed who I said I was or not, if you think you liked what I did or if I offended you, or whatever. Just thoughts in general.

about 6 years
Someone needs to tell him, that’s not me, that not faking being ràped doesn’t mean you’re pro-ràpe dear God how can you have that fücked up of a view.
about 6 years
As much as this is horrifying, wrong, insensitive, embarrassing, awkward, etc. we have to remember that Lionel is a 15 year old kid.

He will (hopefully) grow out of this phase as we mostly all did

He's just looking for validation but doing a really poor job of it

He reminds me of me back in the day
about 6 years
You’re braindead. No one is saying you need to have been rapéd to “be against it”. We are saying it’s awful to roleplay as someone who has been because there are people who actually have been rapèd and you’re choosing to minimize their trauma down to something you can just roleplay.
about 6 years
about 6 years
And i wouldn't say I have mental illness because of this, considering I know when to stop doing it. As I was unbanned from my accounts, I straight up told everybody that I was LioneI/Army.
about 6 years
And i wouldn't say I have mental illness because of this, considering I know when to stop doing it. As I was unbanned from my accounts, I straight up told everybody that I was LioneI/Army.
about 6 years

Pinche says

The amount of thought and backstory for your catfish accounts is psychotic and symbolic of a mental illness.



grisly says

anyway jacob regardless you kinda owe everyone an apology and need to seriously examine yourself


just so we are clear here, I made the stories up as I went along. I originally made up the people so I would not get banned for bypassing a suspension that I did not deserve/earn.

They knew I was 14 year old Jacob who does orienteering. They didn't think 14 year old Jacob would be 25 year old Maria the teacher or 23 year old Lionel the web deverloper.
about 6 years

Zayn says

Making up fake tragedies so you can “get people to open up about their traumas” is not heroic of you. It’s disgusting. Making someone who has gone through horrible things feel like they have a refuge by pretending to have hurt in the same way as them is sociopathic. You sit at your computer and over exaggerate stories to intense degrees in order to elicit responses? Vile.


there have been several people who LIKED what I did and the recognition they received from me about those types of tragic events was actually helpful.

So Jeff, you are acting like I actually have to be räped to be against it. Maybe you are the problem here.
about 6 years

yela says


Pinche says

The amount of thought and backstory for your catfish accounts is psychotic and symbolic of a mental illness.


and stigmatizing him for it it is def gonna help him, i don't see what harm this caused?


LazyYami approached my dreamgate account on some hidden alt of his in sandbox and started trying to flirt with that account. He revealed himself and gave me his Discord. I reveal myself, and he freaks the fk out. This has caused numerous harm, especially how he joined Misunderstood family then after.
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view says

is he actually 15 or was that made up


im pretty sure hes actually 15, and he hasnt been 15 for that long either? if hes not then goddamn his deception has more layers to it than i thought....... anyway jacob regardless you kinda owe everyone an apology and need to seriously examine yourself
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i'm actually hot and not at all ugly
about 6 years
I am actually 3.
about 6 years
is he actually 15 or was that made up
about 6 years
xela's backstory is that i watch chronicles of riddick at least once a month and i eat a lot of eggs
about 6 years

Zayn says

Making up fake tragedies so you can “get people to open up about their traumas” is not heroic of you. It’s disgusting. Making someone who has gone through horrible things feel like they have a refuge by pretending to have hurt in the same way as them is sociopathic. You sit at your computer and over exaggerate stories to intense degrees in order to elicit responses? Vile.


yeah i never went that far thats a bit ..much. especially with the amount of detail in the backstories its definitely a bit much
about 6 years
this thread is a lot
about 6 years
when i was struggling with my mental health and created cakerz, i created a backstory for that account as well. at the time i was so confused by the thought of separating what people thought of me from what i actually wanted to do (which at the time was to help people, although the way i went about it had room for improvement). i didn't see myself as this nice and helpful person, so i created a separate persona to play out those traits i was so afraid to associate with myself. i think alts are a way for people struggling with their identity to create an entirely new one, which is pretty damaging in the long run. i had trouble believing that i could be multi-faceted, and had to create a whole other identity when i wanted to do something i didn't personally think i was capable of. i think that's whats going on here, in a more extreme case. maybe these are parts of himself that he needs to separate from his identity in order to cope. dunno.

im also not trying to excuse this, i'm just trying to explain the thought process he may be having since i put a lot of thought into my alts by giving them their own personalities in the past as well.
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also dont take anything i said as like...... a defense of what he did, even i didnt really realize the full extent of what he was doing (or read his whole post), ill delete those comments once i get off mobile
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tbfh im gonna have to agree on that point zayn/yela, hes young so i hope that doesnt follow him forever but even kids should be held accountable for their actions to some degree
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Zayn says


yela says


Pinche says

The amount of thought and backstory for your catfish accounts is psychotic and symbolic of a mental illness.


and stigmatizing him for it it is def gonna help him, i don't see what harm this caused?


making up fake stories? Making up fake physical abuse stories? Making up people dying in car accidents? Reactivating trauma in others just so you can play a role online that you find fun? What harm does it cause?

Other people’s traumas and realities are not someone else’s playground to experiment with. What he did was fûcked up and disgusting. Thinking he’s justified in role playing as a victim of various horrifying tragedies is sick!


sorry i didn't realize this was what he was doing exactly i should've read into it more that's def messed up then
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Making up fake tragedies so you can “get people to open up about their traumas” is not heroic of you. It’s disgusting. Making someone who has gone through horrible things feel like they have a refuge by pretending to have hurt in the same way as them is sociopathic. You sit at your computer and over exaggerate stories to intense degrees in order to elicit responses? Vile.
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add me on snapchat: cat.fish_95
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making up fake ràpe stories *
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yela says


Pinche says

The amount of thought and backstory for your catfish accounts is psychotic and symbolic of a mental illness.


and stigmatizing him for it it is def gonna help him, i don't see what harm this caused?


making up fake stories? Making up fake physical abuse stories? Making up people dying in car accidents? Reactivating trauma in others just so you can play a role online that you find fun? What harm does it cause?

Other people’s traumas and realities are not someone else’s playground to experiment with. What he did was fûcked up and disgusting. Thinking he’s justified in role playing as a victim of various horrifying tragedies is sick!
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