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"Catfishing" alts and stuff.

about 6 years

Watching the video D3X posted where we found lailai, it reminded me of the alts that I used to bypass my suspension on Orienteering (for claiming that I hacked the site when it was really lailai). these depictions of people who weren't who they said they were, these really made me feel bad about what I have done in the past. But after a second of thinking about it, I realize that I don't think I did total wrong.

DreamGate was supposed to represent a female who had been born in a hostile environment, emigrated to the States from Spain at age 6, and was sexually abused during high school, and then fixed her stuff, got into college, and then declared she was a lesbian. She was born in Barcelona, Spain to a couple, where the mother was the father's sex slave. The mother had no money on her own, and both Maria ("DreamGate's" first name) and the mother had been abused. Once Maria was 6, someone randomly slipped the mother plane tickets to the United States, and so Maria and the mother were able to immigrate from Spain to New York, and then New Orleans, where they stayed in Lafayette, LA. She lived in a ghetto neighborhood, but in early high school, a senior boy approached her, and they hooked up. Maria started playing Volleyball in high school, and it kept her safe from the ghetto. But she was called to her boyfriend's house once, but she came in and saw her bf and three other boys, who instantly beat her and gang- her. They all got arrested after, but she was scarred for life. She realized that through all of her experiences, she didn't think she would ever have the gall to put her trust in a man again, and in college, she outed herself as lesbian. I have told people about this in stories all throughout the time the account worked, and it kinda got people's attention. It got a lot of feedback, and it even got people to open up about childhood complications, as well as sharing their own stories of abuse/sexual abuse.

Lionel was supposed to represent a breaking of stereotypes, as well as proof that deep down, we all have our sad stories and emotions. His story was that he was a Half-Mexican, Half-Welsh 2nd-gen American who started working out in High School. He had a girlfriend who had mutual love for him since elementary school, but her parents didn't like Lionel. Her family moved to a new area in his senior year, thus breaking them up. He got a job at a gym and started working out like crazy so he could get into the Naval Academy (He was "23" in this account, so he was close to the maximum application age). He also studied web design/development in his free time. Soon after he graduated, he got a job as a mechanic/web maintenance person at that particular gym he worked at. And one night, I posted an update in a few games with people like soda (I remember his reaction the most), where I said that I was driving home from work and I saw a car crash that happened to be nonfatal for one vehicle, but not the other car which had his ex in it (y'know the one from before). Yeah, so, I made an EM family to kind of see who else was misunderstood as a person. They gave me life stories and I gave them decent advice. I had helped somebody with workout tips by mixing my ROTC workouts with XC workouts. People shared their reactions of losing loved ones in the worst way possible (in fact, around the time before I got banned when I was caught multiaccounting, I found out my childhood best friend died in a self-caused action). People have shared experiences of where they had a dream, but waited just too long to follow it, and now they are living in a mutilated shell of a life.

Believe it or not, when I used those accounts and tried to tell the stories, it actually felt really weird to just make up a person who have had experiences way outside of my own. At first, I was trying to appear as someone other than DatGuiser to the mods, but then it just snowballed into telling the tales that haven't been spoken, which encouraged people to speak up about their experiences, even including the people who have perpetrated those terrible actions.

This thread's OP's purpose is to help understand the honest intention of the psychopathic train that I rode for not only my benefit, but for others as well. This forum is to share anything you thought about while reading this: experiences in my stories similar to ones you have lived through, sharing if you believed who I said I was or not, if you think you liked what I did or if I offended you, or whatever. Just thoughts in general.

about 6 years

iatepewdiepie says


wink says

when i was struggling with my mental health and created cakerz, i created a backstory for that account as well. at the time i was so confused by the thought of separating what people thought of me from what i actually wanted to do (which at the time was to help people, although the way i went about it had room for improvement). i didn't see myself as this nice and helpful person, so i created a separate persona to play out those traits i was so afraid to associate with myself. i think alts are a way for people struggling with their identity to create an entirely new one, which is pretty damaging in the long run. i had trouble believing that i could be multi-faceted, and had to create a whole other identity when i wanted to do something i didn't personally think i was capable of. i think that's whats going on here, in a more extreme case. maybe these are parts of himself that he needs to separate from his identity in order to cope. dunno.

im also not trying to excuse this, i'm just trying to explain the thought process he may be having since i put a lot of thought into my alts by giving them their own personalities in the past as well.


check a therapist m8, wtf


this was 4 years ago, I've done what i needed to do to rectify it.
about 6 years
log off and do your homework and play some fartnite for everyone's sake
about 6 years
Faith! Wherefore would any Person, or Individual, put on such an Elaborate Façade to Obscure and otherwise Conceal his, her, their (or Other Dative Personal Pronoun appropriate to a Human Being of Nonbinary Gender Identity) true and veritable Selfhood?
about 6 years
wth, who deleted my post.
about 6 years
I support megasteelix in all his endeavors and anyone critical of him needs to check themselves.
about 6 years
lmao
about 6 years
You manipulated people to open up about very personal things. Through deception you squeezed out traumatic experiences from people.

Your results are completely invalidated because of the lack of sincerity and honesty.

You were wrong.
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

I can't believe you're still going at this regardless of the massive backlash

Just apologize, admit you're wrong, and move on


the only reason why I feel the need to defend my actions at this point is because people are missing out on very crucial factors that would partially disprove their arguments

I do know that pretending to be someone else is wrong.

I know that making up stories is wrong.

But I do know that having done both, it happened to create very good results for many others.
about 6 years

Hibiki says

trust jeff to be aggressively “woke” while arm chair psychoanalysing bad behaviour and scapegoating mental illness at the same time. no freakin surprises there LOL


please don't say stuff like this, regardless if he does it or not. he is taking something that he has preconceived to be wrong and he says it is wrong. he is not trying to attack me, he is just saying it is wrong regardless of any evidence of it being good/right.
about 6 years

SteelixMega says

this thing turned out positive results, and therefore I can only say in hindsight that this was a good experience.


Oh
about 6 years
I can't believe you're still going at this regardless of the massive backlash

Just apologize, admit you're wrong, and move on
about 6 years

Hibiki says

honestly OP that’s f*cked up

like, reconsider your life choices or maybe just log the f*** off until you like, start having Human Emotions


I know it is messed up, but the only bad results are the reactions of me coming out and explaining the whole thing.

I don't have any more catfish alts.

I have no more human emotions, all I have is care and judgement of what is right and wrong. From all I can see, this thing turned out positive results, and therefore I can only say in hindsight that this was a good experience.
about 6 years

Carmen says

Lying about sexual assault to console others is bad because, regardless of the arguable positive results of having people confide in someone they think went through the same traumatic experience, you DIDNT go through that experience and thus have no way of possibly connecting or relating with them. In no uncertain words, you're a fake friend.


with real ears that are open and a real heart who cares about them regardless with how much I can truly sympathize
about 6 years

wink says

i would really take some time to reflect and maybe talk to a professional about why you come up with such vivid stories about things that you haven't experienced, it could be an underlying issue




1. Already know and stated why.

2. Never done it since.

3. Idk you but <3 back
about 6 years

Alex says


MisterPresident says

As much as this is horrifying, wrong, insensitive, embarrassing, awkward, etc. we have to remember that Lionel is a 15 year old kid.

He will (hopefully) grow out of this phase as we mostly all did

He's just looking for validation but doing a really poor job of it

He reminds me of me back in the day


we're all really glad you finally grew out of your "young republican who has zero sense of how the world works" phase dude


thanks

having an OK education and exposure to more walks of life helped a lot
about 6 years

wink says

when i was struggling with my mental health and created cakerz, i created a backstory for that account as well. at the time i was so confused by the thought of separating what people thought of me from what i actually wanted to do (which at the time was to help people, although the way i went about it had room for improvement). i didn't see myself as this nice and helpful person, so i created a separate persona to play out those traits i was so afraid to associate with myself. i think alts are a way for people struggling with their identity to create an entirely new one, which is pretty damaging in the long run. i had trouble believing that i could be multi-faceted, and had to create a whole other identity when i wanted to do something i didn't personally think i was capable of. i think that's whats going on here, in a more extreme case. maybe these are parts of himself that he needs to separate from his identity in order to cope. dunno.

im also not trying to excuse this, i'm just trying to explain the thought process he may be having since i put a lot of thought into my alts by giving them their own personalities in the past as well.


check a therapist m8, wtf
about 6 years
I catfish and dox sodomites/trans/LARPers/people I disagree strongly with/other degenerates on Discord. I also came across one of the victims of the victims of one my victims (my "victims" are almost always both degenerates and HORRIBLE PEOPLE), and tried to hep him with some that I don't remember or care to remember.
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

As much as this is horrifying, wrong, insensitive, embarrassing, awkward, etc. we have to remember that Lionel is a 15 year old kid.

He will (hopefully) grow out of this phase as we mostly all did

He's just looking for validation but doing a really poor job of it

He reminds me of me back in the day


we're all really glad you finally grew out of your "young republican who has zero sense of how the world works" phase dude
about 6 years
cakerz redemption arc is my favourite TV drama
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

lmao lucid should just shut this place down


i would pay him to
about 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

lmao lucid should just shut this place down


this isn't a site for mafia game ,this is a social medias
about 6 years
lmao lucid should just shut this place down
about 6 years

Kawaii says

you never even apologised for it and you still dont


i left too fast to publicly apologize. but consider this me formally apologizing. i didnt think i was capable of something like that and it took a long time to forgive myself and try and make up for it. i'm trying my best and that's the only thing I can do now. it happened. it was not okay. it was never okay. it still isn't okay, but it happened, and i am trying the best i can now to make it up to the people ive hurt by being mindful about these situations and handling them in a healthier way. if you want to talk more about this in pm i am happy to do that
about 6 years

Kawaii says


wink says


Zayn says

Making up fake tragedies so you can “get people to open up about their traumas” is not heroic of you. It’s disgusting. Making someone who has gone through horrible things feel like they have a refuge by pretending to have hurt in the same way as them is sociopathic. You sit at your computer and over exaggerate stories to intense degrees in order to elicit responses? Vile.


yeah i never went that far thats a bit ..much. especially with the amount of detail in the backstories its definitely a bit much


you pretended to be nice so people would open up about their stories and personal lives. not as far but the same sociopathic line was crossed


i agree. 4 years ago i would have told you i just wanted to be liked, but the intent still doesn't make up for the lack of trust. the best anyone can do after a situation like that is reflect and seek out the right help
about 6 years

wink says


Zayn says

Making up fake tragedies so you can “get people to open up about their traumas” is not heroic of you. It’s disgusting. Making someone who has gone through horrible things feel like they have a refuge by pretending to have hurt in the same way as them is sociopathic. You sit at your computer and over exaggerate stories to intense degrees in order to elicit responses? Vile.


yeah i never went that far thats a bit ..much. especially with the amount of detail in the backstories its definitely a bit much


you pretended to be nice so people would open up about their stories and personal lives. not as far but the same sociopathic line was crossed