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"Catfishing" alts and stuff.

about 6 years

Watching the video D3X posted where we found lailai, it reminded me of the alts that I used to bypass my suspension on Orienteering (for claiming that I hacked the site when it was really lailai). these depictions of people who weren't who they said they were, these really made me feel bad about what I have done in the past. But after a second of thinking about it, I realize that I don't think I did total wrong.

DreamGate was supposed to represent a female who had been born in a hostile environment, emigrated to the States from Spain at age 6, and was sexually abused during high school, and then fixed her stuff, got into college, and then declared she was a lesbian. She was born in Barcelona, Spain to a couple, where the mother was the father's sex slave. The mother had no money on her own, and both Maria ("DreamGate's" first name) and the mother had been abused. Once Maria was 6, someone randomly slipped the mother plane tickets to the United States, and so Maria and the mother were able to immigrate from Spain to New York, and then New Orleans, where they stayed in Lafayette, LA. She lived in a ghetto neighborhood, but in early high school, a senior boy approached her, and they hooked up. Maria started playing Volleyball in high school, and it kept her safe from the ghetto. But she was called to her boyfriend's house once, but she came in and saw her bf and three other boys, who instantly beat her and gang- her. They all got arrested after, but she was scarred for life. She realized that through all of her experiences, she didn't think she would ever have the gall to put her trust in a man again, and in college, she outed herself as lesbian. I have told people about this in stories all throughout the time the account worked, and it kinda got people's attention. It got a lot of feedback, and it even got people to open up about childhood complications, as well as sharing their own stories of abuse/sexual abuse.

Lionel was supposed to represent a breaking of stereotypes, as well as proof that deep down, we all have our sad stories and emotions. His story was that he was a Half-Mexican, Half-Welsh 2nd-gen American who started working out in High School. He had a girlfriend who had mutual love for him since elementary school, but her parents didn't like Lionel. Her family moved to a new area in his senior year, thus breaking them up. He got a job at a gym and started working out like crazy so he could get into the Naval Academy (He was "23" in this account, so he was close to the maximum application age). He also studied web design/development in his free time. Soon after he graduated, he got a job as a mechanic/web maintenance person at that particular gym he worked at. And one night, I posted an update in a few games with people like soda (I remember his reaction the most), where I said that I was driving home from work and I saw a car crash that happened to be nonfatal for one vehicle, but not the other car which had his ex in it (y'know the one from before). Yeah, so, I made an EM family to kind of see who else was misunderstood as a person. They gave me life stories and I gave them decent advice. I had helped somebody with workout tips by mixing my ROTC workouts with XC workouts. People shared their reactions of losing loved ones in the worst way possible (in fact, around the time before I got banned when I was caught multiaccounting, I found out my childhood best friend died in a self-caused action). People have shared experiences of where they had a dream, but waited just too long to follow it, and now they are living in a mutilated shell of a life.

Believe it or not, when I used those accounts and tried to tell the stories, it actually felt really weird to just make up a person who have had experiences way outside of my own. At first, I was trying to appear as someone other than DatGuiser to the mods, but then it just snowballed into telling the tales that haven't been spoken, which encouraged people to speak up about their experiences, even including the people who have perpetrated those terrible actions.

This thread's OP's purpose is to help understand the honest intention of the psychopathic train that I rode for not only my benefit, but for others as well. This forum is to share anything you thought about while reading this: experiences in my stories similar to ones you have lived through, sharing if you believed who I said I was or not, if you think you liked what I did or if I offended you, or whatever. Just thoughts in general.

about 6 years
theres like 60 recurring characters but theyre never referred to with names but i can distinctly differentiate between thme
about 6 years
this isnt even weird ,,nerds ,, i have a whole cool town in my head and instead of sleeping for the first few hours i go to bed , i play stories in my head. its cool and the plots barely need any working and its very vivid but i cant write it down or draw it afterwards
about 6 years
I don't think there's anything wrong with playing different characters on alt accounts.

But when it come's to pretending to be abused/r4ped in order to get other people to open up about their experiences. I think that is wrong.

If they want to tell you their story then let them tell you their story, but don't attempt to decieve them into telling you their story.

Obtaining attention, getting reactions, gaining information, isn't really a good metric of sucess.

The means don't justify the end.
about 6 years
You have went down on Epicmafia's history of Greatest Trolls~~
about 6 years
One thing I have also noticed is that nobody is talking about what I have said on LioneI about how I helped someone get personally stronger. I know I told it from a perspective of "I'm really buff" and I am not really buff, but those were the actual workouts I used, and it helped someone to get fit over a 3-month time period.
about 6 years

MisterPresident says




SteelixMega says

this thing turned out positive results, and therefore I can only say in hindsight that this was a good experience.


"What a good experience! :)"


yeah I destroyed the world by getting people help, even if it means lying to them and CALMLY SAYING I CAN DIRECT THEM TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP OR WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED SUCH THINGS. gee I must be the devil or worse.
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view says

you have been told both harshly and not why what you did is awful. you know you're really coming off as borderline sociopathic by trying to downplay it right ? lmao


no, people are missing crucial facts. I know that people have gotten mad at me, I even said I was wrong to do such things. But I am not apologizing because it did not cause anything bad to happen, and the people who have suffered have found other people who can help them, people who are more qualified than myself to do so. Don't you think that is a good thing that happened?
about 6 years
everything good at home?
about 6 years



SteelixMega says

this thing turned out positive results, and therefore I can only say in hindsight that this was a good experience.


"What a good experience! :)"
about 6 years
miniscule brain: accept the fact that you f*cked up and caused harm and strive to better yourself
galaxy brain: this thread
about 6 years
you have been told both harshly and not why what you did is awful. you know you're really coming off as borderline sociopathic by trying to downplay it right ? lmao
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

Either way you are a liar and manipulated people and that is disgusting


I lied. I invited people to say stuff, I didn't put a gun to their head or threaten them in any way. These people who have endured many things were talking to me at first, but they were left to talk to each other after the DreamGate account was hacked.
about 6 years

view says


SteelixMega says


view says

log off and do your homework and play some fartnite for everyone's sake


homework done, what next?


fartnite duh??


Chromebook can't support it.
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

Either way you are a liar and manipulated people and that is disgusting


what did you expect from a site revolving around deception
about 6 years

SteelixMega says


view says

log off and do your homework and play some fartnite for everyone's sake


homework done, what next?


fartnite duh??
about 6 years
Either way you are a liar and manipulated people and that is disgusting
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this thread's still going on huh
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do you not think that they would feel like their trust had been betrayed when they found out you were lying to them the whole time? do you not think of the repercussions to their mental health knowing that the person that they trusted and someone that they believed shared their experiences was completely making it all up?
about 6 years

MisterPresident says


SteelixMega says


MisterPresident says

You manipulated people to open up about very personal things. Through deception you squeezed out traumatic experiences from people.

Your results are completely invalidated because of the lack of sincerity and honesty.

You were wrong.


I did not force people to say their stuff. They saw an open, inviting environment. I didn't put them in a torture chamber and yell out, "TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU WERE REPED!!!"


No, but they trusted you because you claimed that you've been through something similar. They probably wouldn't have listened to ignorant, bigoted, 15 year old boy Lionel


either way, they knew they were talking to someone who cared sincerely.
about 6 years
OK
about 6 years

MisterPresident says


SteelixMega says


MisterPresident says

You manipulated people to open up about very personal things. Through deception you squeezed out traumatic experiences from people.

Your results are completely invalidated because of the lack of sincerity and honesty.

You were wrong.


I did not force people to say their stuff. They saw an open, inviting environment. I didn't put them in a torture chamber and yell out, "TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU WERE REPED!!!"


No, but they trusted you because you claimed that you've been through something similar. They probably wouldn't have listened to ignorant, bigoted, 15 year old boy Lionel


I am not a bigot. Use the word correctly.
about 6 years

SteelixMega says


MisterPresident says

You manipulated people to open up about very personal things. Through deception you squeezed out traumatic experiences from people.

Your results are completely invalidated because of the lack of sincerity and honesty.

You were wrong.


I did not force people to say their stuff. They saw an open, inviting environment. I didn't put them in a torture chamber and yell out, "TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU WERE REPED!!!"


No, but they trusted you because you claimed that you've been through something similar. They probably wouldn't have listened to ignorant, bigoted, 15 year old boy Lionel
about 6 years

view says

log off and do your homework and play some fartnite for everyone's sake


homework done, what next?
about 6 years

MisterPresident says

You manipulated people to open up about very personal things. Through deception you squeezed out traumatic experiences from people.

Your results are completely invalidated because of the lack of sincerity and honesty.

You were wrong.


I did not force people to say their stuff. They saw an open, inviting environment. I didn't put them in a torture chamber and yell out, "TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU WERE REPED!!!"
about 6 years
tldr

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