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New Roles

JonSnow
over 5 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
50
Cat Lady
26
Vice President
22
the Seer
12
Robinhood
12
Soldier
6
Jack the Ripper
6
Whistleblower
4
Gossiper
Shwartz99
over 5 years

admin says

hmm ok, i'll remove all role reveals for now except those for yourself


would this include when your role changes via conversion
Bartimaeus46
over 5 years
di ck is censored, d*ck isn't. He only said he was allowing d*ck.

;')
shayneismyname
over 5 years

admin says

i've also removed d*ck as a filtered word, by popular request.. this will prob be the last removal i'll entertain


Double-check this. Appears to still be censored.
admin
over 5 years
ok, i'll do a final cleanup of bugs i've introduced tomorrow morning, otherwise, see you all in a couple months!
admin
over 5 years
i've also removed d*ck as a filtered word, by popular request.. this will prob be the last removal i'll entertain
admin
over 5 years
hmm ok, i'll remove all role reveals for now except those for yourself
shayneismyname
over 5 years

Ally says

i don't think it's the end of the world to show it for all deaths etc especially in sandbox when some people might not know all the new roles and you can't hover over roles in closed role setups, but they should be something you can toggle on/off.


I think it's a *huge* mess to show it upon all reveals. If bride dies, you can just type on "bride" and see what bride does via vocab. If a role dies with a HUGE role logic (e.g. werewolf) that can make it much more likely that someone's will gets overlooked. It really bloats games.

I suggested role logic be revealed n1 so people don't go into the game going "wtf does my role do?"
deletedover 5 years
i don't think it's the end of the world to show it for all deaths etc especially in sandbox when some people might not know all the new roles and you can't hover over roles in closed role setups, but they should be something you can toggle on/off.
shayneismyname
over 5 years

Ally says

whoever suggested role cards and didn't suggest a toggle, i am going to eat you


They're great in theory, I think they're just broken/incorrectly implemented. See my comment above. They're suppossed to only tell you what your own role does.
deletedover 5 years
whoever suggested role cards and didn't suggest a toggle, i am going to eat you
shayneismyname
over 5 years
Un currently it also gives role logic upon deaths and suis which is a bit much. Like, if someone dies, ALL of town will see that user's role logic. Can you make it so it only gives role logic n1 or if our role changes (e.x. if we are masoned/zombied)
Shwartz99
over 5 years
:D thanks for coming back and improving the site lucid
async
over 5 years
lemme make PRs to the codebase instead of me spending hours writing scripts (to do what you eventually decide to do anyway) based around your janky code that changes every few months
async
over 5 years
@admin put the code on github or riot
admin
over 5 years

Shwartz99 says

oh yeah and celeb seems to screw around with the role cards


this should be fixed as well, but please email me if not
admin
over 5 years

Shwartz99 says

I'll just post the already corrected messages:

Endgame:
This game was ranked/unranked.

Rainmaker:
You summon the rain gods.

A sudden violent downpour comes from the sky! Due to bad weather today's lynch has been canceled.

Neighbor:
You learn that X is a Neighbor.

Robin hood:
X's pockets were empty.

You received a [item] from a mysterious stranger.

Seer:
You suddenly experience a moment of prescience. You feel that X are the mafia.

Gramps:
You learn that X is a Y.

Snoop:
After some snooping, you find out X is not carrying any items..

Penguin:
Penguins be matin'.

A few other things:
Arms dealer meeting is called gunsmith meeting, which might be misleading.

When snow queen is asked if they want to do a blizzard, it says "party".

Recruit doesn't get a message on whether or not they visited mafia.

You can probably combine the "The room is dark and no one's faces are visible." and "There may be imposters in the meeting..." messages together when there is an impostor to the maf meeting. In any case, it's impostor not imposter.


all fixed!
Alyssa
over 5 years
ty for the quick last minute updates lucid

enjoy your break
Shwartz99
over 5 years
oh yeah and celeb seems to screw around with the role cards
Shwartz99
over 5 years
I'll just post the already corrected messages:

Endgame:
This game was ranked/unranked.

Rainmaker:
You summon the rain gods.

A sudden violent downpour comes from the sky! Due to bad weather today's lynch has been canceled.

Neighbor:
You learn that X is a Neighbor.

Robin hood:
X's pockets were empty.

You received a [item] from a mysterious stranger.

Seer:
You suddenly experience a moment of prescience. You feel that X are the mafia.

Gramps:
You learn that X is a Y.

Snoop:
After some snooping, you find out X is not carrying any items..

Penguin:
Penguins be matin'.

A few other things:
Arms dealer meeting is called gunsmith meeting, which might be misleading.

When snow queen is asked if they want to do a blizzard, it says "party".

Recruit doesn't get a message on whether or not they visited mafia.

You can probably combine the "The room is dark and no one's faces are visible." and "There may be imposters in the meeting..." messages together when there is an impostor to the maf meeting. In any case, it's impostor not imposter.
admin
over 5 years
ok i added the words above as well!
deletedover 5 years
lucid needs an hc vio as per the zero tolerance policy...
shayneismyname
over 5 years

Alyssa says

Since these could result in hateful comment vios could you add these to the list before you go? https://pastebin.com/raw/WJ6Y153D

Swear words on the other hand I agree with Shayne that they probably should be taken off, inherently hateful slurs is different then saying some curse words that's a part of a lot of peoples vocabulary.


add b_eaner to this also
Alyssa
over 5 years

admin says


Alyssa says

That red on grey background for the role cards really contrast with each other. Think you could go for a cooler/less saturated red?


sure, send me a color code!


#bc4949 is what other system messages uses and is a lot easier on the eyes
Alyssa
over 5 years
It's a shortened word for the f-slur used against gay people that's commonly used to get around the filter
admin
over 5 years

Golbolco says


admin says

Alright, I'll wrap up some stuff and likely be back to check on the site in a couple months!


Thanks for all the hard work!


thanks for all your help!