about 6 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
50
Cat Lady
26
Vice President
22
the Seer
12
Robinhood
12
Soldier
6
Jack the Ripper
6
Whistleblower
4
Gossiper
about 6 years

admin says

also, should mastermind be able to use his/her cat too?


Nah, but you can add a "pet cat" "yes no" meeting
about 6 years
also, should mastermind be able to use his/her cat too?
about 6 years

matt says

did you ever entertain adding resistance mode?


i think Seer is the way i'll slowly introduce that mechanism
about 6 years
did you ever entertain adding resistance mode?
about 6 years
also, lynching should be exempt as a kill for jack?
about 6 years

Golbolco says


admin says

so i'm trying to flesh out the final specs for Seer

say there are third parties in the game, and the game isn't over once the last mafia is gone. the mafia gets to point out the seer at the very very end? and their pointing out the seer overrides all other conditions? (president, soldier, etc)


They should have to point out when the last mafia is dead or about to die regardless of thirds, and it should override all other conditions. And it should be a group vote.


+1
about 6 years

admin says

so i'm trying to flesh out the final specs for Seer

say there are third parties in the game, and the game isn't over once the last mafia is gone. the mafia gets to point out the seer at the very very end? and their pointing out the seer overrides all other conditions? (president, soldier, etc)


They should have to point out when the last mafia is dead or about to die regardless of thirds, and it should override all other conditions. And it should be a group vote.
about 6 years

admin says

also, for seer, should the group of mafia vote on who they think Seer is, or just whoever is killed last?


i think it'd be good if they voted together, but that might be kind of difficult if they cant talk in a meeting about it. this also might be difficult if there are 2 mafs and they disagree. i think they'd need the night to vote on it.
about 6 years
also, for seer, should the group of mafia vote on who they think Seer is, or just whoever is killed last?
about 6 years
for jack, i think it's easiest to just track who have actually killed someone in the game. for example, granny is not really a killing role, but could accidentally defend and kill someone.



If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.


i don't understand this, why would this matter?
about 6 years

Reiyo says

Magician mafsided
every night he can exchange two items between two people
can only trade when both people have items
if they dont have the item the exchange wont be complete
does not attend maf meetings


this would definitely require some inventory system (players being able to see all their items)
about 6 years
so i'm trying to flesh out the final specs for Seer

say there are third parties in the game, and the game isn't over once the last mafia is gone. the mafia gets to point out the seer at the very very end? and their pointing out the seer overrides all other conditions? (president, soldier, etc)
about 6 years
I think that's a great way to reword Whistleblower. When I selected it I must have glossed over because when I was looking at it again recently I thought the language was pretty vague. This would work as a role.
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Whislteblower (remake)
Maf sided;
Once per game can force someone to vote someone else, a message will appear signaling someone has blew their whistle and state whom (some good maf wifom is possible i suppose)
*Vote cannot be OT'd when a hammer
*Cannot blow whistle if there is 3 way
Please give more thoughts... if its just a sht role then ok
about 6 years
why would the seer be with mafia? It should just reveal
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Golbolco says

His role isn't just to replace the president, though. It's to kill the president. That was the whole point of making him meet with the mafia, he's working with them under false pretenses.

Having Seer meet with the mafia deviates quite a bit from the original role of the Seer in Resistance (being a relatively powerless role with a lot of knowledge.) I would pass on that idea.


ohh I didn't know that was his purpose. then third party would be good for him then
about 6 years
His role isn't just to replace the president, though. It's to kill the president. That was the whole point of making him meet with the mafia, he's working with them under false pretenses.

Having Seer meet with the mafia deviates quite a bit from the original role of the Seer in Resistance (being a relatively powerless role with a lot of knowledge.) I would pass on that idea.
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admin says


Golbolco says

I still think that VP should be Third Party. Making it village yet unable to win is superfluous.


oh, you mean, just change the alignment, but keep it having no win condition like maid?


I think VP should be town sided, having him be third party or with no win condition seems kind of unfitting if his role serves to replace president

I also think the "sitting in on maf meetings and making them anonymous" mechanic would be really good on Seer
about 6 years
Magician mafsided
every night he can exchange two items between two people
can only trade when both people have items
if they dont have the item the exchange wont be complete
does not attend maf meetings
about 6 years

admin says


Golbolco says

I still think that VP should be Third Party. Making it village yet unable to win is superfluous.


oh, you mean, just change the alignment, but keep it having no win condition like maid?


Yeah, basically.
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the widow role is a maf sided secretary and it could work perfectly with town sided jailers. please add it!!
about 6 years

Golbolco says

I still think that VP should be Third Party. Making it village yet unable to win is superfluous.


oh, you mean, just change the alignment, but keep it having no win condition like maid?
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why does vice president go into maf meetings?

VP should just be a backup president if pres dies. Making it unable to win is kind of lame and so is letting it in maf meetings.

That mechanic should honestly be added to autocrat or onto a new role entirely. I like the idea of a third party role or even village role being able to watch mafia meetings anonymously, but I dont think VP should be able to do that.


Vice President
If the president dies, takes their place
All townies immediately receive a message of their new president


^ boom, perfect role. remove the frills tbh.
about 6 years

Volta says

hey admin, quick question:
who's real who's fake
who's 100, who's cake


what lol
about 6 years

luis4rod says

VP does NOT work when president is shot. Maf wins automatically if president is shot:

https://epicmafia.com/game/6762602

VP does work if pres gets lynched or night killed.

lynched: https://epicmafia.com/game/6762599
night killed: https://epicmafia.com/game/6762597


ok, should work with guns now