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JonSnow
about 6 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
50
Cat Lady
26
Vice President
22
the Seer
12
Robinhood
12
Soldier
6
Jack the Ripper
6
Whistleblower
4
Gossiper
iMafia
about 6 years
In a 3 way with president/sniper/soldier.

If sniper shoots president it's town win due to soldier's ability. (tested)

There's a contradiction:

soldier forces town win when last 2 standing vs. president's death forces mafia win.

Is this intentional?
admin
about 6 years
Seer will come probably tomorrow, and will start working on Medium, prob to be finished wednesday
admin
about 6 years
Added vice president as well, email me bugs
admin
about 6 years
Darn, I knew there was some other bug. Fixed!
PonyLove
about 6 years
Cat Lady is the worst. You cant talk or see chat during the day, just send a cat to someone
Songin
about 6 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/6762100/review

Cat Lady can't chat during the day and doesn't appear in village meeting sidebar.
admin
about 6 years
Oops, fixed :|
Songin
about 6 years
Games aren't starting when cat lady is included.
DarkB
about 6 years
cant play with Cat Lady
Bannanaxd
about 6 years
fix the catlady
admin
about 6 years

shayneismyname says

Also, can you fix the fact that voodoo role is case senstive? RN it is case sensitive, so town can go "okay, today every talk in all caps/lowercase" cutting the chances in half. May as well also add in that "h e l l o" counts as "hello" tbh. Cut down on ways to circumvent voodoo, but at the very least make it ignore upper/lowercase.


i've also made the voodoo not case sensitive, please let me know if i broke something
admin
about 6 years
Cat lady has been added! Will try to add Vice president by later tonight
HD40307
about 6 years
Spirit: can contact the living even when dead, but cannot vote and cannot be killed when dead. Does not see day/night actions when dead. Sided with the village.
TheWorst
about 6 years
Actually would like to see Jigsaw role become accurate to its role. I tried the best I could with what I had with the role maker, but it could be a really fun role if fully realized. https://epicmafia.com/role/6573

Jigsaw would be either a third party or mafia.

He'd have two actions: one to give a gun to someone, the second would be their target to shoot or they will die themselves. If this is a mafia role, it would be a one time ability, but as a third party it could be multiple times. Third party win condition would be to get to the end ala the Killer, as it would basically be a more complex Killer. Alternatively get the person to shoot three times but that seems a bit easy.

If the Jigsaw gets shot instead, the game is over and the person lives.

I could see this being a really fun role to play around with, both as Mafia and Third Party. I'd prefer mafia as it would probably be more effective, but third party fits the role a bit more.

Would appreciate any feedback.
Monobear
about 6 years
To not clutter the forum with quoteblocks, I just think there's maybe too many variables, and that if I played as Spider I think I could get lost with remembering how many legs I lost and what actions make me lose how many legs. I think ultimately Daisy is too simple, Spider too complex.

Though I mean, there's also a chance to find middle ground. A third party winning via avoiding visits is interesting, I just think we hypothetically would need to make it so that it can both stand on its own and be simple enough for players to grasp.

With my Daisy suggestion I FEEL like maybe giving it 5 petals or something a little bit more could be feasible (because when you think about it I feel like you'd be visited much more often than you'd think), but again, with a 3p like this maybe there just needs to be another element to it.
SteelixMega
about 6 years

Monobear says


SteelixMega says


Monobear says


SteelixMega says


Monobear says

At the recommendation of people, I'm gonna post two role ideas for submission

Daisy (3P)
-Begins the game with three petals
-Will lose one petal for every time visited
-Dies if the Daisy runs out of petals
-Wins if it has at least one or more petals at the end of the game




didn't someone make a role called the spider that is just like that?


I searched high and low for a role called Spider and I turned out pretty much empty. I mean I found this, but it's very obviously different, but was the closet I could find: https://epicmafia.com/role/11150

I suggested Daisy around when roles like Butterfly and Bride etc were being put out there so I don't know if maybe something was suggested in another thread later and I missed it. But from what I can find, I don't know if this Spider role exists.


https://epicmafia.com/topic/90781?page=8&post_highlight=3123558 by BeepBeepLettuce


Oh that stinks, completely missed that one. The one I had posted was a revised version of an older role-suggestion thread.

The idea behind Daisy was that it was just a simple role where you're trying to survive and trying to come up with ways to get cops off your tail or docs off of you etc etc. I feel like it's comparable to the Survivor (iirc at the time I think that was the biggest complaint) but the fact that it's this role where the main objective is to keep roles off of you I felt like was interesting. I don't know if maybe to improve it it should have more petals or a second overall thing to do, but I tried going simple with it.


yeah just the fact alone that it is a third party role and is uncompable would mean that it needs to get put in pr-heavy ranked/unranked/sandbox setups. I see spider being better here because of all the variables.
Monobear
about 6 years

SteelixMega says


Monobear says


SteelixMega says


Monobear says

At the recommendation of people, I'm gonna post two role ideas for submission

Daisy (3P)
-Begins the game with three petals
-Will lose one petal for every time visited
-Dies if the Daisy runs out of petals
-Wins if it has at least one or more petals at the end of the game




didn't someone make a role called the spider that is just like that?


I searched high and low for a role called Spider and I turned out pretty much empty. I mean I found this, but it's very obviously different, but was the closet I could find: https://epicmafia.com/role/11150

I suggested Daisy around when roles like Butterfly and Bride etc were being put out there so I don't know if maybe something was suggested in another thread later and I missed it. But from what I can find, I don't know if this Spider role exists.


https://epicmafia.com/topic/90781?page=8&post_highlight=3123558 by BeepBeepLettuce


Oh that stinks, completely missed that one. The one I had posted was a revised version of an older role-suggestion thread.

The idea behind Daisy was that it was just a simple role where you're trying to survive and trying to come up with ways to get cops off your tail or docs off of you etc etc. I feel like it's comparable to the Survivor (iirc at the time I think that was the biggest complaint) but the fact that it's this role where the main objective is to keep roles off of you I felt like was interesting. I don't know if maybe to improve it it should have more petals or a second overall thing to do, but I tried going simple with it.
SteelixMega
about 6 years

Monobear says


SteelixMega says


Monobear says

At the recommendation of people, I'm gonna post two role ideas for submission

Daisy (3P)
-Begins the game with three petals
-Will lose one petal for every time visited
-Dies if the Daisy runs out of petals
-Wins if it has at least one or more petals at the end of the game




didn't someone make a role called the spider that is just like that?


I searched high and low for a role called Spider and I turned out pretty much empty. I mean I found this, but it's very obviously different, but was the closet I could find: https://epicmafia.com/role/11150

I suggested Daisy around when roles like Butterfly and Bride etc were being put out there so I don't know if maybe something was suggested in another thread later and I missed it. But from what I can find, I don't know if this Spider role exists.


https://epicmafia.com/topic/90781?page=8&post_highlight=3123558 by BeepBeepLettuce
Monobear
about 6 years

SteelixMega says


Monobear says

At the recommendation of people, I'm gonna post two role ideas for submission

Daisy (3P)
-Begins the game with three petals
-Will lose one petal for every time visited
-Dies if the Daisy runs out of petals
-Wins if it has at least one or more petals at the end of the game




didn't someone make a role called the spider that is just like that?


I searched high and low for a role called Spider and I turned out pretty much empty. I mean I found this, but it's very obviously different, but was the closet I could find: https://epicmafia.com/role/11150

I suggested Daisy around when roles like Butterfly and Bride etc were being put out there so I don't know if maybe something was suggested in another thread later and I missed it. But from what I can find, I don't know if this Spider role exists.
shayneismyname
about 6 years
Also pls fix the bug that fabbed knives still kill.
SteelixMega
about 6 years

Monobear says

At the recommendation of people, I'm gonna post two role ideas for submission

Daisy (3P)
-Begins the game with three petals
-Will lose one petal for every time visited
-Dies if the Daisy runs out of petals
-Wins if it has at least one or more petals at the end of the game




didn't someone make a role called the spider that is just like that?
Monobear
about 6 years
At the recommendation of people, I'm gonna post two role ideas for submission

Daisy (3P)
-Begins the game with three petals
-Will lose one petal for every time visited
-Dies if the Daisy runs out of petals
-Wins if it has at least one or more petals at the end of the game

Lifeguard (Town)
-Chooses one person at night
-The chosen person is safe from nightkills and the Lifeguard is incapable of being roleblocked
-The Lifeguard saving someone will be revealed in a system message to the mafia, however
-Sided with the village
Message: “You spot [Lifeguard] rushing to the water and saving your target from death!”

Maybe Lifeguard could be tweaked so that any killing role would be able to know who the Lifeguard is? I put mafia but on second thoughts it could be expanded.
shayneismyname
about 6 years
Also, can you fix the fact that voodoo role is case senstive? RN it is case sensitive, so town can go "okay, today every talk in all caps/lowercase" cutting the chances in half. May as well also add in that "h e l l o" counts as "hello" tbh. Cut down on ways to circumvent voodoo, but at the very least make it ignore upper/lowercase.
view
about 6 years
wrong thread but custom roles need to be fixed (except vegetable)
Songin
about 6 years
Hi lucid let me help program roles.